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    Player
    Shyluv's Avatar
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    Ahraliah Moon
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    Mateus
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    It doesn't take very many accuracy melds to make it so you either rarely miss or just don't miss, for expert dungeons.

    I only stop DPSing if a DPS is tanking a mob or two, or the tanks health falls to about 60% and regen is about to fall off, or my mp is at 30% with LA on cooldown, or I can see an incoming derp, or tank busters.
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    kingatlas's Avatar
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    Akylios Dono
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    Odin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Yeah, most expect you to dps now, when it started to switch from its nice that you dps, to getting yelled at for not doing as much dps as you can all the time, I quit healing.
    Healing was never fun, now its just expect to be blamed for everything. Someone dies healers fault, fail dps check healers fault, die in pvp healers fault, someone stole your sweetroll healers fault.

    And of course it isn't helped by the oh so mature response of "If you do or say something I don't like, I will just let you die"
    Very adult response btw.
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    Adolf Weismann
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Healer accuracy was also nerfed apparently so I would say you are fine just healing. Always remember healer dps is appreciated and nice to have but for all content outside of savage raids it is never required. If you aren't comfortable with dpsing and being able to keep everyone alive at the same time then just stick to healing.
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    Mizu Ka
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 80
    at OP

    that healer sounds like a complete idiot tbh

    Healer dps is ok, but letting a tank fall far short of 50% HP then raging about mitigating more damage is beyond stupid and the healer is obviously wrong.
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    ElieDavion's Avatar
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    Elie Davion
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurima View Post
    at OP

    that healer sounds like a complete idiot tbh

    Healer dps is ok, but letting a tank fall far short of 50% HP then raging about mitigating more damage is beyond stupid and the healer is obviously wrong.
    i totally agree with this and while a paladin can somewhat selfheal as a previous poster suggested it isnt a tanks job to heal himself thats the healers job besides that clemency costs half a palas mp and should be used in my opinion in an emergency where a healer is to stressed or the pala has really nothing better to do wich i doubt
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    There is no coincidence only Fate

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    Waliel's Avatar
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    Waliel Hla
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    WoW's holy pld tank and solo healer, so this games tanking and healing is so different.
    Holy Paladins could only tank against other holy Paladins. In WoW there's actually enough incoming damage from normal trash that you are kept relatively busy healing a single pack.

    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    To be fair, the CNJ questline revolved around how necessary it was to dps when you could. And a "pure healer" was a silly concept
    One day people will stop taking this out of context, but today is not the day.
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    Shug's Avatar
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    Mimmoki Moki
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    Brynhildr
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ElieDavion View Post
    i totally agree with this and while a paladin can somewhat selfheal as a previous poster suggested it isnt a tanks job to heal himself thats the healers job besides that clemency costs half a palas mp and should be used in my opinion in an emergency where a healer is to stressed or the pala has really nothing better to do wich i doubt
    Devils advocate here, how can people here say if a healer doesn't dps they aren't playing right, but you turn around and say you shouldn't have to self heal? Wouldn't that be playing paladins class to the fullest?
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    Elie Davion
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    Paladin Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    Devils advocate here, how can people here say if a healer doesn't dps they aren't playing right, but you turn around and say you shouldn't have to self heal? Wouldn't that be playing paladins class to the fullest?
    while i did say that lets set some things straight while a paladin can heal himself it costs half his mp wich he also needs for stupid things like flash.
    wich doesnt mean he shouldnt use it or any other cd that should be common sense. it also should be common sense that a healer heals when a heal is needed
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    Mimmoki Moki
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElieDavion View Post
    while i did say that lets set some things straight while a paladin can heal himself it costs half his mp wich he also needs for stupid things like flash.
    wich doesnt mean he shouldnt use it or any other cd that should be common sense. it also should be common sense that a healer heals when a heal is needed
    That is true. But the healer is using mp that can be used to heal as well while missing a few hits while dpsing. Like I said just playing devils advocate. I don't count on a pally to self heal. If hp gets too low, its cause I was too aggressive with my dps and I apologize and get less aggressive. Also in DF, I don't go in expecting any tank to use any cd's, so I don't yell at them when they don't, and if they do, they get a comm out of it.
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    lvlagmarink's Avatar
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    Magmarink Dragregory
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    I just had a normal qarn a few hours ago which i was the healer.. The tank and monk started to verbal abuse the BLM as a shitty dps because the BLM just stood still during the mobs pack before the 2nd boss.. To the BLM's excuse, "controller's faulty".

    Then at the 2nd boss, monk and tank started to take aoe damage and started to blame me because i only healed at 5% HP or so they said.. What happened was, i was using cleric stance and dpsing while tank's hp dropped from 1000++ to 200 because of the AoE.. And they started to put some cursing language in party chat cursing me and BLM for being shitty.. In regards to that, i purposely heal the tank at lower than 20% hp on the next set of mobs.. Mind you all, nobody died during the run.. They didn't like my playstyle, so they voted kick me.. I requeue, joined in another duty with instant pop, and got leveled... Feels like they felt insecure for healers to dps..
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    Last edited by lvlagmarink; 03-12-2016 at 06:06 PM.

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