Is dpsing and a healer becoming the standard norm!

[TheUltimateSeph]

You don't need to heal for pretty much half of phase 3, as soon as the might and magic buffs are on everyone is practically immortal. You can figure this out the first time you're in there, if, in future runs you're choosing to not dps in that phase I would personally call you out on it. You're actually more likely to cause a wipe in that instance since that phase is a huge dps check.

Do go on.

And since I've cleared I have started dpsing in phase 3 during might and magic. Before clear I wasn't comfortable with it and I didn't know if any outgoing damage was coming out during might and magic and was trying to conserve mana. And I might clarify we cleared proving me dpsing would have been optional anyway.

Hey, glad we agree on something! Real talk you have a minority opinion. Sometimes that happens you know? The community is pretty decided on this one. You can jump up and down and tell people that your opinion is right, just don't get mad or act surprised when people disagree with you. Especially when you say stuff like this.

So you know, carry on, fight the power and all that.

Eh the forums largely represent a very vocal elitist minority from what I've gathered and been told. Most people I encounter in game don't care if a healer does dps or not as long as they keep everyone alive. Edit cause post limit for the day.

[CorbinDallas]

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Any healer worth their salt has one eye on their party list and the other on mechanics, so if it took you until your clear to figure out that no damage was taken, then, uhh...

Yes, it was optional in that clear but what of future runs? Not everyone is perfect, one dps slips up in the first phase 3 rotation and RIPs, you wipe to a 1% enrage. Guess where that 1% could have come from?

[Velthice]

Yeah cause healers not dpsing makes them bad.

Hey, glad we agree on something! Real talk you have a minority opinion. Sometimes that happens you know? The community is pretty decided on this one. You can jump up and down and tell people that your opinion is right, just don't get mad or act surprised when people disagree with you. Especially when you say stuff like this.

If auto attacks could get the job done I'm fine with it.

So you know, carry on, fight the power and all that.

Please do go on, this is vastly entertaining.

[Tanathya]

I guess no one knows what the word optional means.

Maybe you do not know that what you deem as optional is not optional to begin with. You've defended bad play in countless threads, so it comes as no surprise to me. Don't make me quote that infamous post of yours in which you admitted to having been spamming a single button on your DRG and excused it as "it was a 24-man run lulz".

[AlphaFox]

It's basically been said but yes, Healers attacking are considered normal and even encouraged. I don't remember the exact post but didn't one of the higher ups basically show that Healers are expected to contribute to the action? Even your training dummy will fail you if you do nothing but heal. However on the note of SCH and just pulling a fairy out and going AFK, I love getting those kinds cus a quick inquiry to my FC and I know I have a quick replacement for them, even sweeter when I feel or know they are only there for the daily and kick em right before the final boss. Sure, I'll carry ya to the top but I am also gonna chuck ya down the cliff once we reach it.

[nexas506]

Not DPSing as a healer doesn't make you bad. You're just not living up to your full potential. I think corbin is being hard on seph because there's so much more he could do, and just wants him(allong with all healers) to be all they can be.
Its a simple case of constructive criticism interpreted the wrong way.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

It's basically been said but yes, Healers attacking are considered normal and even encouraged. I don't remember the exact post but didn't one of the higher ups basically show that Healers are expected to contribute to the action? Even your training dummy will fail you if you do nothing but heal. However on the note of SCH and just pulling a fairy out and going AFK, I love getting those kinds cus a quick inquiry to my FC and I know I have a quick replacement for them, even sweeter when I feel or know they are only there for the daily and kick em right before the final boss. Sure, I'll carry ya to the top but I am also gonna chuck ya down the cliff once we reach it.

Agreed. With all the damage reduction spells and hots you can throw and forget and switch to DPS. Especially with all the changes to AST.

[AngelicSence]

Yes, it was optional in that clear but what of future runs? Not everyone is perfect, one dps slips up in the first phase 3 rotation and RIPs, you wipe to a 1% enrage.

This type of thinking is really important. Healers are provided with DPS not only because it helps them with solo. WHM is an iconic class to FF series, they are known for their burst healing and destructive power (Holy). WHM get Aero3, Assize and Holy, 3 AoE abilities because that's who they are. DPS is optional for healers and SE will never include healer DPS check onto any content. But if healers are insecure to DPS or don't want to do it. Imagine other jobs. As an example; Blm don't use flare because it cost all MP. It turns out, only few people actually play their character to fullest. My only worry is that people still don't understand the importance of 1% wipe situation and how effective it's to contribution everything you have at the moment.

[AngelicSence]

Not DPSing as a healer doesn't make you bad. You're just not living up to your full potential. I think corbin is being hard on seph because there's so much more he could do, and just wants him(allong with all healers) to be all they can be.
Its a simple case of constructive criticism interpreted the wrong way.

Yeah, well, it doesn't make you a bad healer, but not good player. There is not a single argument that can counter that fact. It's just funny how others try and defend their position. Trying to convince as many people to believe that they are right and we are wrong. Same goes to real life actually.. I personally work hard everyday, sometimes I only sleep for 4 hrs a day and some of my work mates criticize me because I do better? This doesn't make sense..

[Velthice]

Eh the forums largely represent a very vocal elitist minority from what I've gathered and been told. Most people I encounter in game don't care if a healer does dps or not as long as they keep everyone alive. Edit cause post limit for the day.

Please. I don't ever take the official forums into account because it's place full of crazy, and constantly the butt of every joke. It's gotten to the point that being an "OF poster" is considered an insult in my FC. Anyway, here's an experiment that you can try at home. Go to literally any other xiv hub. Reddit, bluegartr forums, guildwork, anywhere where semi serious discussion takes place. Present your argument there and get back to me.