Is dpsing and a healer becoming the standard norm!

[Gunspec]

I don't know about you guys, but the norm for me has always been to stick my hands in my pockets and watch three other people play the game without my input. I mean, if you don't need the heals, I'm fine just watching. If you really need healing though, please say something with raid warning noises, or I might not pull my head out of my phone in time to cast a regen or whatever.

[nexas506]

IMO, Heal when you should. Dps when/if you can.

[AlphaFox]

It's basically been said but yes, Healers attacking are considered normal and even encouraged. I don't remember the exact post but didn't one of the higher ups basically show that Healers are expected to contribute to the action? Even your training dummy will fail you if you do nothing but heal. However on the note of SCH and just pulling a fairy out and going AFK, I love getting those kinds cus a quick inquiry to my FC and I know I have a quick replacement for them, even sweeter when I feel or know they are only there for the daily and kick em right before the final boss. Sure, I'll carry ya to the top but I am also gonna chuck ya down the cliff once we reach it.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

It's basically been said but yes, Healers attacking are considered normal and even encouraged. I don't remember the exact post but didn't one of the higher ups basically show that Healers are expected to contribute to the action? Even your training dummy will fail you if you do nothing but heal. However on the note of SCH and just pulling a fairy out and going AFK, I love getting those kinds cus a quick inquiry to my FC and I know I have a quick replacement for them, even sweeter when I feel or know they are only there for the daily and kick em right before the final boss. Sure, I'll carry ya to the top but I am also gonna chuck ya down the cliff once we reach it.

Agreed. With all the damage reduction spells and hots you can throw and forget and switch to DPS. Especially with all the changes to AST.

[nexas506]

Not DPSing as a healer doesn't make you bad. You're just not living up to your full potential. I think corbin is being hard on seph because there's so much more he could do, and just wants him(allong with all healers) to be all they can be.
Its a simple case of constructive criticism interpreted the wrong way.

[AngelicSence]

Yes, it was optional in that clear but what of future runs? Not everyone is perfect, one dps slips up in the first phase 3 rotation and RIPs, you wipe to a 1% enrage.

This type of thinking is really important. Healers are provided with DPS not only because it helps them with solo. WHM is an iconic class to FF series, they are known for their burst healing and destructive power (Holy). WHM get Aero3, Assize and Holy, 3 AoE abilities because that's who they are. DPS is optional for healers and SE will never include healer DPS check onto any content. But if healers are insecure to DPS or don't want to do it. Imagine other jobs. As an example; Blm don't use flare because it cost all MP. It turns out, only few people actually play their character to fullest. My only worry is that people still don't understand the importance of 1% wipe situation and how effective it's to contribution everything you have at the moment.

[AngelicSence]

Not DPSing as a healer doesn't make you bad. You're just not living up to your full potential. I think corbin is being hard on seph because there's so much more he could do, and just wants him(allong with all healers) to be all they can be.
Its a simple case of constructive criticism interpreted the wrong way.

Yeah, well, it doesn't make you a bad healer, but not good player. There is not a single argument that can counter that fact. It's just funny how others try and defend their position. Trying to convince as many people to believe that they are right and we are wrong. Same goes to real life actually.. I personally work hard everyday, sometimes I only sleep for 4 hrs a day and some of my work mates criticize me because I do better? This doesn't make sense..

[IceSpear]

Healers are like friends.... The best ones come with additional benefits. :P Not to say that the healers who don't dps are "bad" as some call them, they're in fact playing the class they choose to play which is healer I have no gripe with that. But in this case however I do think the healer is in the wrong here. They shouldn't have reacted the way they did, they had no clue who the tank was nor if he was good so having to turn off cleric stance and heal him for a second is no the end of the world. In regards if healers should dps, I think they should do what they feel comfortable with I just hope I don't get grouped with them. XD

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Be a good healer. Carry all those bad DPS. That way they'll never be expected to get better. ' I'm Keeping DPS job expectations low is everyone's responsibility!

[Odett]

Be a good healer. Carry all those bad DPS. That way they'll never be expected to get better. ' I'm Keeping DPS job expectations low is everyone's responsibility!

Your argument that you constantly post in every one of these topics gets the same answer that you're still unable to rebut. Your argument only makes sense if there was a cap on group DPS. There is none, and the game blatantly shows you that unless your tank has the consistency of tracing paper in Stone Vigil, you're not meant to be full-time healing, If you just stand there without doing anything or insist that overhealing is the answer, that's fine for you, but insisting that (not personally talking to you this is more of a general statement) "I'm not gonna DPS because I'm green icon and green icon is not red icon hurr durr" and having such a narrow mindset while ignoring roughly half of your toolkit makes you a good healer, and not just a normal or mediocre one, you're wrong. You're not a good healer if that's how you view your role in a game that wasn't designed for you to be healing full-time.