Lets go back at 2.0

[Ramadok]

So 3 years ago(i think) was this game a bit broken like blade and soul right now? bots, lag, ping issues, economy imbalance, bad community? i ask because i find that right now after blade two month release is doing pretty bad and i just started playing ffxiv. if i compare blades forum and ffxiv forum the community in blade sucks + all the people are saying "o i quit because of_______" was it like that when ffxiv started? i mean all mmos starts with imbalance and needs fixes but damn blade and soul made a record lol. no hating here

[Jim_Berry]

It was bad, but very playable. Had to do constant maintenance and other fixes. As for the community, it was better back then. People actually helped you clear content without wanting to get a reward from it. Even good players didn't talk crap about bad players. Now, it's "3 wipes and I'm done" in a learning party kind of thing.

[MXMoondoggie]

Sure all MMO's when they start have issues. FFXIV attracted more players than they imagined at first and the servers had issues people couldn't even log on for the first couple of days of early access it was that busy. Latency was a constant issue with the game they made some improvements to how positioning is handled by the servers and more recently added proper EU servers so EU players won't have to play with lag even on EU servers. Economy was bad at first on legacy servers but got better quickly they also added many new servers that started from zero.

The main issue I guess for FFXIV back then was the lack of endgame it was very boring once the main story was over until 2.1 added new content and people got grumpy because of the farming grind but in many ways I think the community for this game is one of the nicest MMO communities. The Devs have tried their best to stay close to the fans and listen to them to improve the game and add things people would enjoy so I think they have managed to keep a lot of players and keep growing the community with new ones. Something like B&S is your usual F2P experience it's also already an old game it just took a long time to come to the West and it's not a particularly good game so after the initial month of new things people get bored of it and the idiocy begins. I think F2P games attract a lot of bad people too FFXIV has botters and gold sellers which are a pain but I think certain types of people don't play sub games and always show up in F2P stuff and I saw those people tear apart fun games too after they went F2P.

[myahele]

Excluding endgame, 2.0 lacked:
1. Glamour
2. Aesthetician
3. Purchasable Fantasia potions

I supposed the only saving grace that 2.0 (and FF 14 in general) had was that the devs promised to release content every 3ish months so many waited till 2.1 was released to decide whether or not it was worth continuing to sub

[Dyvid]

Well from what I remember, everyone was fairly happy with the game with only minor complaints. Everyone has their little points they like to hate on but as a whole everyone seemed/seems to enjoy the game. You could always go back in the history and read for yourself if you want.

Edit: Just went to _ _ _ _ _ & _ _ _ _ forums wow. I guess a plus is we don't have gil seller bots posting here.

[Ramadok]

Well from what I remember, everyone was fairly happy with the game with only minor complaints. Everyone has their little points they like to hate on but as a whole everyone seemed/seems to enjoy the game. You could always go back in the history and read for yourself if you want.

Edit: Just went to _ _ _ _ _ & _ _ _ _ forums wow. I guess a plus is we don't have gil seller bots posting here.

aaaa thanks man well from what i heard ffxiv was like blade and soul now?

[F_Maximillian]

aaaa thanks man well from what i heard ffxiv was like blade and soul now?

Having tried FFXIV in the beta but not actually playing it until now and having played Blade & Soul off and on since the CN launch I can say that B&S has had yeaars to fix it's issues whereas FFXIV was a new launch everywhere, not just in NA. Comparing a fresh launch with unexpected turnout to a game that's been released in at least four other versions isn't a very good comparison.

[Ramadok]

Having tried FFXIV in the beta but not actually playing it until now and having played Blade & Soul off and on since the CN launch I can say that B&S has had yeaars to fix it's issues whereas FFXIV was a new launch everywhere, not just in NA. Comparing a fresh launch with unexpected turnout to a game that's been released in at least four other versions isn't a very good comparison.

so basically blade and soul will remain the same? since its an old game with different versions? idk how long that game will survive tho

[Losstarot]

Blade and soul is fun to play at certain rates, whereas FFXIV has to be dedicated in a certain way.

[F_Maximillian]

so basically blade and soul will remain the same? since its an old game with different versions? idk how long that game will survive tho

I believe that type of discussion should be saved for the blade and soul forums/reddit.