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    Jimjo's Avatar
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    Jimjo Cetra
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    PVP Ranking in Feast (Solo 4 VS 4) needs to be reworked.

    Ranking points need to be distributed in a different manner.

    Right now how it works is this:

    - The Team wins. You gain points.
    - The Team is defeated. You loose points.

    What it needs to be:
    Distribute ranking points based on personal player results. Even if your team is defeated you SHOULD gain a few points IF you played your class right.

    It does not only annoy me, but it actually makes me angry when this happens:

    Playing as WAR, doing more DPS then the melee and the range. Healing more then half of what the Healer did. Didnt die. Doing the most kills. And in the end I lost points. Even the same amount I would have lost if I just didnt do anything at all.

    This is utter garbage and needs to be reworked.

    Please Square Enix!
    TT tournament is shit. LOV tournament is shit. Now this is shit as well.
    For the love of god, can you at least try to do any ranked / tournament things in this game right just once, or at least try to fix it instead of leaving the stuff the way it is for month without even caring?
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    Die deutschsprachige Freie Gesellschaft Persistence <<PST>> sucht nach Mitspielern. Bei Interesse meldet Euch im Spiel per /tell Jimjo Cetra.
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    After even more days of PVP this is even more horrible. Now I am getting paired with People who go afk. People who start the match by saying: "Just here for the esoterics." I am losing points because of those people. This is not fair at all. I think in addition to changing the whole thing, those people should get banned from for the whole season.

    Also why do people get paired with unranked people when they reach higher tiers? Are you really serious about that matchmaking? How can the circle of people who are in charge of PVP sit together an agree on any of this?
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    Die deutschsprachige Freie Gesellschaft Persistence <<PST>> sucht nach Mitspielern. Bei Interesse meldet Euch im Spiel per /tell Jimjo Cetra.
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    G'andriel Ilythiir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimjo View Post
    How can the circle of people who are in charge of PVP sit together an agree on any of this?
    It's simple. They don't care. There is so much wrong with PvP in this game (can't speak for PvE simply because I don't really give two fucks about that. Only do it for the story.) and it's never going to get fixed. If you play this game purely for PvP, then spare yourself the suffering and just play a game that does it right.
    I, for one, get my PvP needs in EVE Online (elite solo Black Opsing) and consider this game a joke. The story is somewhat nice, though.
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    This is impossible to measure realistically. How can a game engine measure when you stun at a crucial moment, or successfully execute your burst rotation as opposed to just killing someone out of dumb luck and persistance? Clutch healing, interrupts, peels, using utility correctly?

    You can't measure that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renault View Post
    This is impossible to measure realistically. How can a game engine measure when you stun at a crucial moment, or successfully execute your burst rotation as opposed to just killing someone out of dumb luck and persistance? Clutch healing, interrupts, peels, using utility correctly?

    You can't measure that.
    Actually, you're wrong. You can measure part of that. You ever hear that "SHINK" sound during a PvE encounter? It's usually accompanied by an increase to your Limit Break bar. It's caused by healing someone near death, and interrupting or stunning casts.
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    Thats because 95% of player base is on rank bronze ... and SE makes it that way that you need 51%+ winrate ratio to pass bronze rank, which is maybe OK for premade 4v4 but not 4v4 solo. Therefore everybody is sitting on bronze, so thats why you are getting paired with bad players afkers and so on.

    Solution is to spread more players across ranks regarding their skill. For example:
    Bronze to Silver... 30%+ winrate needed (+25win / -12loose)
    Silver to Gold .... 40%+ winrate needed (+25win / -18loose)
    Gold to Platinum .. 50%+ winrate needed (+25win / -25 loose)

    We have 5 ranks in game, so why not use them?
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    Corvus Jack
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunnaRavenheart View Post
    Thats because 95% of player base is on rank bronze ... and SE makes it that way that you need 51%+ winrate ratio to pass bronze rank, which is maybe OK for premade 4v4 but not 4v4 solo. Therefore everybody is sitting on bronze, so thats why you are getting paired with bad players afkers and so on.

    Solution is to spread more players across ranks regarding their skill. For example:
    Bronze to Silver... 30%+ winrate needed (+25win / -12loose)
    Silver to Gold .... 40%+ winrate needed (+25win / -18loose)
    Gold to Platinum .. 50%+ winrate needed (+25win / -25 loose)

    We have 5 ranks in game, so why not use them?
    This post and the other thread that you made was a great example of people putting more thought into this already then Square has. We'll see how it all works out soon enough but I wouldn't advise anyone hold their breath.
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    Nel Synestra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimjo View Post
    Playing as WAR, doing more DPS then the melee and the range. Healing more then half of what the Healer did. Didnt die. Doing the most kills. And in the end I lost points. Even the same amount I would have lost if I just didnt do anything at all.
    I fell ya ;__;

    Also you had nice run in Seal Rock yesterday 10/0! and i actually out healed my teams WHM on that match on WAR so i know what you mean by bolded part, at first it felt like i was playing alone but after checking stats i was literally playing ALONE in that match. I know WAR is good in pvp but cmon i cant tank 8/16 players alone while rest of my team was literally free kills, pretty much all of them were 0/4 or 0/5 >_>

    I hate to say it but if peoples want to enjoy 4v4 only option is premade, and tbh arenas are made for premades so i dont really understand why there is even solo option. Only solo arena mode should be 1v1.
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    Last edited by Synestra; 03-15-2016 at 04:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synestra View Post
    I hate to say it but if peoples want to enjoy 4v4 only option is premade, and tbh arenas are made for premades so i dont really understand why there is even solo option. Only solo arena mode should be 1v1.
    ^ this x1000000
    I could not agree more with this statement
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    I have over 51% win rate still in bronze. FOREVER BRONZE!!!
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