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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Sorry, but this is bull (unless the ONLY DPS spells you use are Combust and Combust II). Before I started melding accuracy on my gear (back when my accuracy was the normal 350 healer accuracy) I was missing CONSTANTLY in the new dungeons and Midas normal.
    I use the usual combo combust 2, combust 1, aero 1, malefic 2 spam until need to dots on bosses and gravity on pulls and yes barely miss... miss one or other but 80-90% of all dungeon hit the target so why bother?

    I will start savage this week but as main healer I wont have much free time to dps so the dots will do for now hence no acc required and leave the rest to sch and other DD and my buffs. If I find some window to dps then I will and if miss some wont be a problem, I am still helping the party.
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    Last edited by Shiki_Lockhart; 03-23-2016 at 03:28 AM.

  2. #22
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    Lunafreya's Avatar
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    Thanks for all the responses. I know this is late but I've been melding Pie and Determination on my ast. Should I do det and crit instead? I'm not going to do accuracy as I think they will fix that in a later patch.
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    Susubi Subi
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    Hmmm healer melds are annoying because of these factors

    In progression ACC may be the best choice for melding but as the caps get higher per tier it means more stacking but when u reach max acc cap for AS7 ur kinda over capped for AS6 and AS5 and Sephirot etc so u may want to carry around items with no accuracy just to hit each accuracy cap

    But stat weights is different depends what healer u are

    For sch crit is king due to how shields works
    For whm and ast its players choice if u like fast heals go speed, if u want bigger heals go crit=det.... If u want more MP go piety

    This is the only issue u will have by stacking accuracy and going back to farm content is that u will be way over the cap needed for that content
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    Mumuki Muki
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    I've decided to go mostly det/crit. There's an argument to be made for acc melds for more dps but, as far as my raid experience has played out so far, I don't find myself using malefic II enough to justify it (of course there's also gravity misses on the adds in a6s as well, but eh). My dps mostly consists of combust I/II and maybe aero before going back to healing someone. I suppose there's also the dungeons as well, but I really don't care about those ( and isn't there a change on the way for healer accuracy as far as dungeons go anyway?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    Thanks for all the responses.
    Pie is great for progression. It is nice because most of the pieces come with Pie anyway.

    Good choice with DET. It is nice to have those consistent heals even though Crit is a stronger stat.

    As far as Acc vs secondaries. T5 melds on all pieces will net you about 2.5% better heals. (192 points of secondaries)

    192 accuracy will give you 21% increased accuracy.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    I'm not going to do accuracy as I think they will fix that in a later patch.
    We've been begging for healer misses to stop since coil in 2.0.

    They won't, and if they do it'll be next expansion at the earliest.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    We've been begging for healer misses to stop since coil in 2.0.

    They won't, and if they do it'll be next expansion at the earliest.
    Didn't they say there would be a tweak in the future?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    Didn't they say there would be a tweak in the future?
    I believe they intend to tweak accuracy requirements for healers in a minor way that will it much more favourable to DPS as a healer in casual content (EX duns and below). While this may also provide a small bonus to your overall accuracy, it'll be safe to assume that this bonus will have at best a minor impact to a healer's already low accuracy in Savage content.
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  9. #29
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    It seems to me like they only tweaked the accuracy for the ex dungeons. Now, I am not sure if Accuracy is beneficial to me on my AST but I think I should be fine with Crit/det/ pie/det if anything. I dps on seph ex and a miss isn't much of a waste. Usually I can hit 3 crit in a row. This will likely be a larger problem in alex savage but I think my dots will be ok for that when I get to it.
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  10. #30
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    Susubi Subi
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    We already had a massive dicussion about healer melds and stat weights in another thread

    If u dps get accuracy

    But if u want to heal CRIT/Spell speed is the best option

    Ignore all determination as its a garbage stat for healer the gains u get from it is a lot worst but for gains it goes

    Spell speed is the strongest stat BUT require u not to waste any GCDs to be effective it also effects HoT/DoT / recast/ cast speed

    Crit is second as. Crit and crit damage effects all ur kit HoT/DoT/Heals/ damage

    Det effects everything but gives the least benefit towards being a healer iv actually been at 800det and it barely feels any different apart from the extra minor numbers which is extreamly poor


    This is all from a discussion this month about healer stat weights at the best option is if u dps = accuracy. If u heal = Crit/speed
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