the moment when ur in a raid and

[Remus]

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Using a skill in rare cases doesn't make it useful also parry is a terrible stat. Most of the time when you do pop it if tank dies and you have aggro chances are you will still die anyway most of the time. I could see it being great tank skill but on a DPS its just a waste in my opinion and could be replaced with something that can boost our damage.

1) If tank is losing aggro i'm very concerned
2) If there is a add which attacks a healer in 4 man they generally hit like a pillow so you want even need it or it dies in seconds.
3) If its 8 man off tank will most likely grab this add and dps kill it.

As i said I believe they should make Keen Flurry a Tank skill instead of a skill for a DPS class.

[Wolfman88]

How about Feint? Every boss is immune to slow Can be used in PvP but even then I still don't use it.

I have a request SE. Can you replace the Keen Flurry Trait and Feint Trait? They are really useless and they could be swapped for something actually related to our DPS.

Feint is decent with a MCH under Gauss Barrel or Bard under Wanderer's Minuet since it doesn't use a cast bar. It's the TP cost that makes it counter-productive.

[Odett]

Using a skill in rare cases doesn't make it useful also parry is a terrible stat

Incorrect. Parry is a terrible secondary stat to have on armor because of how little it scales per number. 135 extra parry is not even a 3% parry chance increase. Keen Flurry and its trait would only be bad if it increased your Parry by a certain number, but it's a great skill because it gives you a percentage boost, a huge 80% one at that. Look at how many bosses have physical forced damage, so I would not call that a "rare case" at all.

[Werhusky]

As a SCH, when there is a WHM in the party ... I usually just check to make sure my Fairy is up and that's about it.

This very moment a fairy died :O

Atleast for raidcontent I want a 15s pullmacro :/

In a PUG:
- 1 min before pull ask the WAR to go into Defiance - getting question upon that request and using the next 40 seconds to explain the party the job of a scholar and the effect of Adloiqum and Deployment Tactics. Request Convalesence and Mantra along the moment they understood.
- 15s depending on fairy use: Fey Illumination and 2 Adlos on WAR/OT trying to get a Critlo out of it
- 10s E4E and Deploy on party (internally curse about the DPS that ran out of its range)
- 9s cleric stance
- 7s precast Shadow Flare
- 3s depending on fairy use: Fey Wind and precast Bio2 that it hits on pull

Atleast that is my common way to use the pull macro. If you don't DPS or almost not maybe can leave out the precasts.
But even on WHM and AST I usually precast the DoT with longest casttime.

[Kaurie]

As a SCH it usually goes one of two ways.

Cast Adlo. CRIT! Yasss! Cleric stance. 10 seconds pass. 15 second countdown timer commences. *cry*

ok next time, I'll wait for the countdown timer.

15 second countdown timer commences
Adlo
Adlo no effect
Adlo no effect
Adlo no effect
Adlo no effect
a f it, cleric stance.

[Remus]

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Yes there are numerous physical bosses which do physical damage to the "tank" most of the fight the only time DPS and Healers generally get hit is when a raid wide AoE happens, boss does a specific attack at a player so that comes down to RNG or as i said a add spawns but it does almost no damage to you by the time you kill it this is why i said Keen Flurry would make a great Tank skill not a skill for DPS.

I full well know how Keen Flurry works I have been playing DRG since beta and I can tell you that using that skill hardly does anything for you and most other DRGs will tell you the same and wish that it was gone most of the time just like Feint. Me and my raid group make jokes about Keen Flurry because everyone knows its useless most the time. There is no instance where you will use it for much of its duration except for as people mention T13/Thordan. The skill is so bad its off my bar and i'm still continuing raiding progressing on A7S with no issues whatsoever.

[Wadoka]

everyone starts turning on their buffs and macros while ur a drg and ur just like








*keen flurry*

I nearly tanked the floor laughing. Thanks!

:::whizzzzzzz:::

[Jim_Berry]

My NIN has Shade Shift and Second Wind on every hotbar. Only thing I'm missing is Mantra

[Jim_Berry]

Even better...

That moment you're in a Raid, and you're Number 2 on hate list. You popped a buffed "Trick Attack" (with Blood for Blood), then all of a sudden, you're Number 5 or 6 on hate list because the MNK, DRG, and BLM took advantage of the Trick Attack.

[Itseotle]

As a Dragoon I always feel a little lackluster while this is going on lol

Why? Take comfort in knowing that while you may not have pre-pull buffs to pop, as soon as the tank pulls you go crazy and top meters. If that's not enough then one word: litany