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    TheFatHousecat's Avatar
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    Balmung
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    Carebear community exhibits suspiciously carebear-esque values. News at 11.
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    Final Spark
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    Bard Lv 90
    Because it was a pain to do your Wolves' Den Challenge log. That was really it, imo..


    Like the person said in the last page, They were only interested in the glamor. There was no other incentive. I don't see how it disrupts your gameplay, though.
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    Lili Reina
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    Faerie
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    i cant believe someone is actually trying to justify win trading.....
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    Violet Flower
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77 View Post
    i cant believe someone is actually trying to justify win trading.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    The issue is that SE has basically said it's okay.
    If developers are indeed fine with it, then it's irrelevant if we like it or not. It'll not go away and no point arguing here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    If developers are indeed fine with it, then it's irrelevant if we like it or not. It'll not go away and no point arguing here.
    And yet, people still loudly complain about parsers in spite of the devs being fine with them and acknowledging players do use them- official or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat View Post
    And yet, people still loudly complain about parsers in spite of the devs being fine with them and acknowledging players do use them- official or not.
    People complain only when being humilated for low dps. Because it's much easier to cry and complain than to improve your rotation.
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    Arch Idealist
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    Alpha
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat View Post
    And yet, people still loudly complain about parsers in spite of the devs being fine with them and acknowledging players do use them- official or not.
    Players are fine with win trading, because they get rewarded for no effort. Players dislike parsers, because they force them to put in some effort. We can't be sure till we are allowed to talk about parsers, but I am starting to see a pattern here.
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    If developers are indeed fine with it, then it's irrelevant if we like it or not. It'll not go away and no point arguing here.
    That's not true in the slightest. Creating norms, etiquette and accepted social behaviour is done by the community not the devs.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77 View Post
    i cant believe someone is actually trying to justify win trading.....
    To be fair, I wouldn't say people are justify it, but simply explaining why it happens. Unfortunately, there isn't really an efficient way to stop it. You can't ban based on time because you run the risk of banning innocent players. Regardless, it's just not an area the devs should focus on given win trading doesn't hurt anyone. Most people who do it aren't going to play PvP otherwise. This is why making PvP a ranked system is better. The reward is essentially meaningless to anyone not actively playing. Sure, some will still 'cheat', but not like before.
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    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    If I had to guess, the reason is simply... because the PVP in this game is Trash, so people don't wanna put in some effort on something that they don't care about outside of Glamor. That's also why Wintrades tend to do the weekly challenge log, as opposed to grinding out for the gear itself. It's just not worth the effort to your general player because of how bad PVP is in this game.
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