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  1. #21
    Player
    Roegadyn_Bear's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Dominant Bear
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    Exodus
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Takfloyd View Post
    Good thing not everyone is like you then.
    You have too much faith in the community.

    Quote Originally Posted by Takfloyd View Post
    Plenty of players queue for the Trial roulette not just for quick tomestones, but to relive cool fights and help newcomers have a fun experience.
    You take out the tomestones and watch just how many people actually queue up for the Trial Roulette.

    Bismarck and Ravana Trials should already give you an idea of just how bad things can turn out if you were to force an ILvL sync. Newcomers aren't going to have a fun experience when they have someone yelling at them over how they should have watched the video beforehand and how they should already know all the mechanics, nor will they enjoy being berated by people just trying to get their Trial Roulette over with for repeated failure.
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  2. #22
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    CyrilLucifer's Avatar
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I like helping people. I love teaching battles.

    I do not like helping people wipe over and over on content because it's been isynced and half the party has never properly learned the mechanics (like you've clearly never done i70 Titan if you think the average "newcomer" party is going to pass that in Trial Roulette - they're not). That's why no one does Ex primals in DF anymore - it's horrible.

    I don't think it's selfish to say that I don't want to waste my time on a Trial roulette that would potentially take 40 minutes for its current, minimal rewards.
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    Last edited by CyrilLucifer; 03-12-2016 at 05:19 AM.

  3. #23
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    Niwashi's Avatar
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Coeurl
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    Ninja Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    If they did this then new players would not be able to get it done and progress the story. If they made it so it could not be rushed then all those level 60s in high gear would not run it anymore, the time vs tome bonus would not be worth the it to them and the que times would be tremendously long.
    So increase the tome bonus (or any sort of high level reward) to match the increase in expected time. Then it would get run and run correctly, so that new players not only get the game to think they did the run so they can skip over it and do further quests, but they get to actually do the run. Sounds far better than the current version.


    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    It's working as intended. Trials should become easier when the content is outdated so more players can clear it and progress.
    Slightly easier, sure, but not face-roll meaningless. A proper iLevel sync still allows it to get easier as more people would be at the max iLevel rather than the minimum iLevel.
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 03-12-2016 at 08:22 AM.

  4. #24
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    Alahra's Avatar
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I suspect it's because there's generally been no pressing need for it. The reason most dungeons have item level syncs is to keep gaps between low-geared tanks and high-geared DPS narrow enough that threat doesn't become an issue.

    Since most Trials are single target affairs and there are two tanks, however, it's much less of an issue in Trial fights.
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    Last edited by Alahra; 03-12-2016 at 09:36 AM.
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  5. #25
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    Gokuhan's Avatar
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    Gokuhan Kai
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    Siren
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Takfloyd View Post
    This also creates a massive difficulty imbalance in the Trial Roulette, leading to stuff like people instantly quitting the more recent Trials because they'd rather take the penalty and re-queue later hoping to get something like Ifrit Hard.
    No, people leave because new people want to go in blind on very old content, so there needs to be a a few minutes of explanation first followed by wipes when your fresh meat fails to follow mechanics.
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  6. #26
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    Odett's Avatar
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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Gokuhan View Post
    No, people leave because new people want to go in blind on very old content, so there needs to be a a few minutes of explanation first followed by wipes when your fresh meat fails to follow mechanics.
    It's not even that stuff needs to be explained, it's that 5 wipes later, people are dying to the same things without any communication going on because they still think they can ignore mechanics, and to their defense, they've been able to do so until this point. That's the main reason why I'm against nerfing old content. Can't get through it? Learn it and practice.
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