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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    I totally agree. I even go more far. Add Item level synch to 60 at Castrum/praetorium, and people will think two times before pull all the damn dungeon and left behind new people.
    If they did this then new players would not be able to get it done and progress the story. If they made it so it could not be rushed then all those level 60s in high gear would not run it anymore, the time vs tome bonus would not be worth the it to them and the que times would be tremendously long.
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    It is has a easy solution. Increase the prize for doing it. More tomes, more gil, any kind of item, I dont know. Anything atractive. Of`course, only synch level is not the solution. And the dungeon should be "remodeled". More similar to Aetherochemical Research Facility. 4 man dungeon with only few CS. But of course, because is old content, no one will spent resources on modify the dungeon.
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    I respectfully disagree, OP.

    I really, really, really have no intention of doing Titan (HM or Ex) near minimum iLevel at any point ever again and would absolutely loathe any sync on it. Making people go in at or near minimum iLevel would be horrible; you'd just end up with wipes because half of the people never learned the mechanics that strictly. At least as it is I can get in and get out quickly and help and/or carry new players through their trials.

    But with this forced me?

    Good luck getting me to do Trial roulette ever again.

    (Also, lol 70 for Titan HM? Have you even done Titan at this iLevel? That's the 2.0 iLevel for Titan, which Titan HM was fresh content.)
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    Last edited by CyrilLucifer; 03-12-2016 at 01:42 AM.

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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    I respectfully disagree, OP.

    (Also, lol 70 for Titan HM? Have you even done Titan at this iLevel? That's the 2.0 iLevel for Titan, which Titan HM was fresh content.)
    LOL, yeah, I thought that too. Forced ilvl 70 for Titan HM would make it a blocker for new players, even though it's been nerfed considerably. Maybe the three original primals could employ item sync, and lock ilvl to 90 (vs ilvl49), 100(vs ilvl52) and 110(vs ilvl57) respectively. Players could still be quite overgeared, but not stupidly so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    There's no incentive whatsoever for veteran players to queue up for that. If you watch all the cutscenes, Praetorium is 45-50 minutes long. You can get 200 Poetics/Esoterics way more quickly doing other things. No veterans queueing means newbies can't even get into the dungeon to progress their story. That's the ultimate goal of the Roulette - to allow newbies to progress.

    It's outdated content, so I honestly don't see them making any major overhauls to it.
    If the reward of Poetics would not entice veterans, the make the reward richer, but not in a manner that drives progression. By that I mean if the reward would a good one, but not a key to progression, the veteran players who are all about speed would not have much more incentive to run it with relatively strict ilvl sync. But there is a huge population of players who are not chasing end-game, who might well be attracted to running this kind of content if there were rewards geared to them.
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 03-12-2016 at 02:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    I respectfully disagree, OP.

    I really, really, really have no intention of doing Titan (HM or Ex) near minimum iLevel at any point ever again and would absolutely loathe any sync on it. Making people go in at or near minimum iLevel would be horrible; you'd just end up with wipes because half of the people never learned the mechanics that strictly. At least as it is I can get in and get out quickly and help and/or carry new players through their trials.

    But with this forced me?

    Good luck getting me to do Trial roulette ever again.

    (Also, lol 70 for Titan HM? Have you even done Titan at this iLevel? That's the 2.0 iLevel for Titan, which Titan HM was fresh content.)
    Good thing not everyone is like you then.

    Plenty of players queue for the Trial roulette not just for quick tomestones, but to relive cool fights and help newcomers have a fun experience. Whenever I get Westwind or another early Trial and there's new players in there, I do my part by standing still and not attacking to give them some more time to enjoy it, and in the case of Westwind, warning the new players about doing the next two dungeons alone via Duty Finder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takfloyd View Post
    Good thing not everyone is like you then.
    You have too much faith in the community.

    Quote Originally Posted by Takfloyd View Post
    Plenty of players queue for the Trial roulette not just for quick tomestones, but to relive cool fights and help newcomers have a fun experience.
    You take out the tomestones and watch just how many people actually queue up for the Trial Roulette.

    Bismarck and Ravana Trials should already give you an idea of just how bad things can turn out if you were to force an ILvL sync. Newcomers aren't going to have a fun experience when they have someone yelling at them over how they should have watched the video beforehand and how they should already know all the mechanics, nor will they enjoy being berated by people just trying to get their Trial Roulette over with for repeated failure.
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    I like helping people. I love teaching battles.

    I do not like helping people wipe over and over on content because it's been isynced and half the party has never properly learned the mechanics (like you've clearly never done i70 Titan if you think the average "newcomer" party is going to pass that in Trial Roulette - they're not). That's why no one does Ex primals in DF anymore - it's horrible.

    I don't think it's selfish to say that I don't want to waste my time on a Trial roulette that would potentially take 40 minutes for its current, minimal rewards.
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    Last edited by CyrilLucifer; 03-12-2016 at 05:19 AM.