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    Duty Roulette: Leveling

    Can we please take the Trials out of Leveling? Such as Ifrit storyline mode, Garuda, Titan, etc. It is leveling for a reason. We need dungeons only, not primal fights. They are Trials, not dungeons. And we all expect dungeons from leveling roulette. I understand it could help people that are new to the game. But that is what the Trials Roulette is for. These primal fights should be removed from Leveling. It would be highly appreciated if this was done.

    And since we have Mentor Roulette, these Trials are also there too. We don't need Leveling to have Trials.
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    I like having those on my leveling roulette. Is an easy 200k+ exp for 10mins or less.
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    For those that are actually trying to level, having Trials in this Roulette is utter nonsense. dungeon EXP from targets/bosses + Roueltte bonus is better. Not going in doing hardly nothing at all for a mere roulette bonus is not good enough. and 200k+? No. That's incorrect. It scales with your level. I just tried to do Leveling and got Ifrit storyline mode, and I exited. Because that would be a waste of a roulette for me. At level 39. I don't get 200k+. :P If it isn't a dungeon, it defeats the purpose of 'leveling'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VraeliaValkyria View Post
    For those that are actually trying to level, having Trials in this Roulette is utter nonsense. dungeon EXP from targets/bosses + Roueltte bonus is better. Not going in doing hardly nothing at all for a mere roulette bonus is not good enough. and 200k+? No. That's incorrect. It scales with your level. I just tried to do Leveling and got Ifrit storyline mode, and I exited. Because that would be a waste of a roulette for me. At level 39. I don't get 200k+. :P If it isn't a dungeon, it defeats the purpose of 'leveling'.
    Your post makes no sense in terms of efficient leveling. You sat in a queue, then took a 30 minute penalty, so you can sit in a queue again just to run a 20-30 minute dungeon. Say you queued as dps, that's a 30 minute penalty, 10 minute queue (being generous here) plus a 20 minute dungeon run, 60 minutes total time to get exp from a dungeon plus DR bonus. In that time, you could have completed Ifrit Story in 5-6 minutes, queue for your highest 3 dungeons (26 minutes, using a 20 minute queue), run the dungeon and finish it in 25 minutes for a total of 51 minutes. That gives you pretty much the same amount of exp in a shorter amount of time. That was using liberal times for your re-queue and conservative times for if you just stayed in the trial in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cnidarian View Post
    Your post makes no sense in terms of efficient leveling. You sat in a queue, then took a 30 minute penalty, so you can sit in a queue again just to run a 20-30 minute dungeon. Say you queued as dps, that's a 30 minute penalty, 10 minute queue (being generous here) plus a 20 minute dungeon run, 60 minutes total time to get exp from a dungeon plus DR bonus. In that time, you could have completed Ifrit Story in 5-6 minutes, queue for your highest 3 dungeons (26 minutes, using a 20 minute queue), run the dungeon and finish it in 25 minutes for a total of 51 minutes. That gives you pretty much the same amount of exp in a shorter amount of time. That was using liberal times for your re-queue and conservative times for if you just stayed in the trial in the first place.
    that logic only works if leveling roulette bonus XP could get given multiple times. its once a day, so you should use it to get the biggest bonus you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VraeliaValkyria View Post
    For those that are actually trying to level, having Trials in this Roulette is utter nonsense. dungeon EXP from targets/bosses + Roueltte bonus is better. Not going in doing hardly nothing at all for a mere roulette bonus is not good enough. and 200k+? No. That's incorrect. It scales with your level. I just tried to do Leveling and got Ifrit storyline mode, and I exited. Because that would be a waste of a roulette for me. At level 39. I don't get 200k+. :P If it isn't a dungeon, it defeats the purpose of 'leveling'.
    The bonus is the same, so it would be better to do the trial and then a dungeon, which you don't mind to do (likely the highest one).

    Why should I quit Ifrit, eat a 30 min penalty (and waste other ppls time as well), join roulette again and getting something like Tam-Tara (or a trial again ), when i can just do Ifrit, get the bonus and q for Brayflox, Quarn, etc. afterwards?
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    Its for those who need to get it for their story quest, also imo it should be in leveling.
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    Well the 200k+ was with a lvl50+. Even so is easy a 1/4 or 1/6 of the exp bar needed for leveling. That a lot for less than 10mins. Also the leveling roulette you do it for the bonus. Additional exp, like u said from dungeon mobs, you will always get it regarless of roulette or not.
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    This post actually raises a question for me that i dont know the answer to personally, and would love someone who does to chime in. Its been awhile since i was leveling any combat classes, and ive never really done this roulette. So is the bonus you get just a lump sum at the end of the dungeon, or does it additionally give an incremental bonus as you go? For instance, if i que as a level 55 and get lets say cutters cry do the monsters killed along the way give more exp then they would if i qued it straight(which i would only do at level 55 to help a friend)? If the roulette adds bonus exp per kill along with a lump sum at the end, then the OP has a point. But if the only bonus is a percentage based on your level at the end, then its much better to clear the quick anything, then re-que for something else after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frizze View Post
    This post actually raises a question for me that i dont know the answer to personally, and would love someone who does to chime in. Its been awhile since i was leveling any combat classes, and ive never really done this roulette. So is the bonus you get just a lump sum at the end of the dungeon, or does it additionally give an incremental bonus as you go? For instance, if i que as a level 55 and get lets say cutters cry do the monsters killed along the way give more exp then they would if i qued it straight(which i would only do at level 55 to help a friend)? If the roulette adds bonus exp per kill along with a lump sum at the end, then the OP has a point. But if the only bonus is a percentage based on your level at the end, then its much better to clear the quick anything, then re-que for something else after.
    Usually lower lvl dungeon mobs give less exp that the higher ones but is not much difference. The bonus from roulette is at the end, dont matter is you did the full run or just joined at the end of the run.
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