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    I don't think SE should be apologising, cause this is simply out of their hands. If the servers need to be shut down to help those people in Japan it doesn't need any kind of excuse doing so.

    All the best SE!

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    I've only read the first post and the one on page 11 so I might be repeating what was already said but about the server down, it doesn't mean they don't have backup.

    First of all let's disregard the data backup and just talk about server backup. Those can come in many form.

    - It can be the use of multiple pieces in the same server so that if a part of the server break, it can still be use while the broken part is switch.

    -It can be unused backup server in the same server room that are there to take over when a server have a problem.

    -Can be the use of multiple server room in different building so that even in case of fire or something similar to that the server can still be running.

    There are other possibility but those are the main ones.

    In the current case, the server shut down is due to the electric power company asking for it's customers to reduce their usage of power. Even if SE have backup server, without electricity those can't be use. They might have a generator but those are mad for blackout, not for 24/7 usage.

    What the shutdown mean is that they don't have backup servers outside of the area that get it's electricity from TEPCO and there's nothing wrong with that. A situation where an electric company can't assure it's service for an entire area for a prolongate and unknown time is quite rare. A server backup in another area would need maintenance and employees to maintain it. Unlike backup in the same room or a close by building, it's a lot less cost-efficient. Sure it suck that the game is going down for a week and yes they'll lose money because of that but in the long run for the frequency at witch event like that occur, not having backup servers outside the TEPCO area wasn't necessary a bad decision.

    for the tl;dr, SE probably have backup server, but if they're in the TEPCO area they can't be used so it suck that the game is down but that kind of situation is extremely rare.
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    From my understanding after speaking to someone in game that is from Japan...

    1) Power conservation is the objective here. If shutting down these servers means someone else can have some lights and a generator can get some extra juice for hospitals and shelters then shut the servers down and leave them down for a month. People here are not paying for anything and this is not a matter of economic entitlement.

    2) If people can't find a way to use that thing that beats in their chest for more than worrying about their game time on FFXIV then they should have that organ removed and see how they feel about suffering.

    3) Someone mentioned Libya...really? Japan did not declare war on the ocean or the land. Japan is not attempting to remove the ocean or the land from power or attempting to subdue the either of them. This is a natural disaster not a civil war. One is a man made event that can be stopped by one side or the other conceding. The other is an event that happened that was not asked for or antagonized. The suffering may be equal but the cause, effect and chance for mercy or compassion are far different.

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    I like how threads are being deleted by mods. Thank you Mods, you're making this a great place to be in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockne View Post
    I like how threads are being deleted by mods. Thank you Mods, you're making this a great place to be in.
    And thats good they do it. At least no chaotic spam mass is here. Multiple threads with same topic, why not to delete less discussed + These were created later.

    No moderated forum is a chaos with multiple-thread of same subject so I am glad that mods do their job right. I have to agree with you, they are making great place to be in !

    Tbh this thread went off topic long time ago. We all know the situation.
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    Have you read the forums rules? If you haven't just know that spam and rude behavior are mention in it. All your pokemon posts can be count as spam and the way you're responding did come of as rude sometime(not saying you were the only rude one).

    I'm just saying not to be surprise to see post not following the forums guidelines being deleted. It's just normal since by posting here you are suppose to agree and follow those rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramil View Post
    Have you read the forums rules? If you haven't just know that spam and rude behavior are mention in it. All your pokemon posts can be count as spam and the way you're responding did come of as rude sometime(not saying you were the only rude one).

    I'm just saying not to be surprise to see post not following the forums guidelines being deleted. It's just normal since by posting here you are suppose to agree and follow those rules.
    Well yeah, but I'm not exactly contributing to the problem. See, psychology dictates that a random weird thing will diffuse something bad fast.

    Plus, if it was an issue, my posts would be deleted or edited and I'd be slapped with a ban like that other guy. RIP poor sucker.
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    Yep, let's just hope for the best now.

    When do you think the servers will be back up?
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    I can't believe we're even having this discussion.
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    My prayers go out to the SE staff, their familes and all the people involved in the earthquake. May the lord bless Japan with better times to come. If we had any possible way, I would give our electricity and alot of other things so your people can survive this time of tribulation and loss. For those who are worried about the damn servers/game over peoples lives, you digust me greatly. What if it happened to you?? Would you be crying over a damn game then?? People need to growup seriously and get a life. There is plenty to do in life besides sit in a friggin chair behind a computer screen 24/7 or whatever. Go actually socialize with your friends, put some extra hours in to your job and make more money. Read a book or get some excersice or something, get my point?? No this doesn't apply to the people that actually make time for all those things just those who complain and whine about a game and play 24/7 lol. My take on it sorry.
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