So, them Allagans... (possible spoilers)

[Fenral]

I really what to know more about the 4th umbral and astral era.

Agreed. Shame the Fourth Astral Allagans were just a clerical error.

[Morningstar1337]

The Allagan empire reads like a deconstruction of the type of futuristic utopia we see in sci-fi movies like say Tomorrowland or Sailor Moon's Crystal Tokyo. In that in the unlikely event that such events were to happen, the Allagans wound up like the people in Buy'n'Large's Axiom ship (thought a lot more fit) and were ultimately unable to fend for themselves, thinking that the machines will handle it. Their complacency was their downfall, symbolized by the earthquake.

[Kaiser-Ace]

Since it's not been mentioned yet, Azys Lla was a military R & D Facility that specialized in chimerical, Draconic, and void sent bio-reserch.

Many of the parts of Azys Lla actually weren't open to the public due to the amount of danger involved with the research.

Based on some of the nodes dialog, it was also used as a military training ground up until the implementation of the Military Machines taking over as the sole military force.

Any scientists and personnel that didn't escape were likly killed and/or devoured by either the Myricidian Dragons or The Chimeric Beasts.

[Zohar_Lahar]

Keep in mind, Azys Lla survived the earthquake. There may be other non-terrestrial Allagan colonies that survived in isolation with a portion of their technology intact. Though, even if they survived to the present day, they wouldn't exactly be "Allag" by this point.

[Frederick22]

Is hard to know what exacly happened on Azys la during the start of the 4th umbral calamity. Maybe it was abandoned and sealed before it begans.

PD: I really would like to have a summary of everything is know about the allagans so far.

[Fenral]

Since it's not been mentioned yet, Azys Lla was a military R & D Facility that specialized in chimerical, Draconic, and void sent bio-reserch.

Many of the parts of Azys Lla actually weren't open to the public due to the amount of danger involved with the research.

Of course, but like any military base, there was a residential complex for servicemen and their families, and amenities that would be of little value to a purely military fortress, like the Fractal Continuum. It's honestly no different from the Crystal Tower, except with fewer illusions as to what was on display.

There's also the neglected remains of what was most likely a self-sustaining garden over by the Habisphere, which is not the sort of thing you abandon in an apocalypse. Keep in mind that the major breakout in the Meracydian sector that sent the place to hell in a handbasket was less than 3000 years ago. Even if most of the place was left alone, the possibility remains that, barring deliberate sabotage, someone could have survived there for quite some time.

[Kaiser-Ace]

snip.

That is true. And it's all possible.

I personally never get tired of looking around Azys Lla and certainly wouldn't object to exploring more Allagan Compounds. (Still hoping that Nero's Aetherometer was picking up a weapons hanger of some kind below the Labyrinth of Ancients and we get to explore it)

The main problem with determining the long term fate of The Remnants of Allage is that we only recently discovered any reliable information at all on Allage when the tomestones were deciphered. Prior to that any information prior to The Age of Endless Frost (5th Umbral Era) was unreliable at best and complete speculation at worst. And even with the Tomestones information we lack most of the history of the 3rd Astral Era, The Entirety of the time between the 4th and 5th Umbral eras are still unreliable, and everything 3rd Umbral Era and Back are completely unknown pre-history and as much myth as history at this point.

[Alberel]

Is hard to know what exacly happened on Azys la during the start of the 4th umbral calamity. Maybe it was abandoned and sealed before it begans.

I have a feeling this is tied to Nidhogg in some way, or to one of the Great Wyrms at the very least. That giant broken neurolink in the Aery is STILL entirely unexplained and is likely a missing piece in understanding what actually happened on Azys Lla.

[Fenral]

(Still hoping that Nero's Aetherometer was picking up a weapons hanger of some kind below the Labyrinth of Ancients and we get to explore it)

I mean, the totally random theory I've put together is that

the Line of Desch (it needs a name) stayed up on Azys Lla up until the Fifth Umbral Era, making its way to Sharlayan via Eorzea around that time by blending in with the Miqo'te migration. Passing through Mor Dhona along the way, the current heir apparent became fully aware of Salina's true plans locked away in his blood, vowing then and there to put an end to the family's oral tradition that it might never come to pass. (Un)fortunately, even without the stories that came with it, there was enough of Allag left in the blood itself that built-in failsafes could start restoring the memories within once the Tower was rediscovered. Whatever is stirring beneath the Labyrinth is not an accident, so much as a necessary part of the plan that must occur before the Tower can be used to restore Allag's "hope."

I just have a feeling that someone supposedly privy to all the Tower's secrets, and supposedly shutting it down completely, would be unaware of second power source underneath.

Everything working out according to Allag's "destiny" needs to get deconstructed badly before I let any of it go.

I have a feeling this is tied to Nidhogg in some way, or to one of the Great Wyrms at the very least. That giant broken neurolink in the Aery is STILL entirely unexplained and is likely a missing piece in understanding what actually happened on Azys Lla.

It's supposedly a piece of Dalamud that somehow traveled farther than any single other piece of wreckage, according to Yoshi-P, but that just screams government cover up. There's an entire page in the Heavensward artbook detailing the Allagan wreckage there, and none of it is labeled. A loose bit of Binding Coil with no significance whatsoever would have just been pulled from the T11 assets, not created from scratch.

[Frederick22]

Even if I understand the use of the crystal tower, I stil gotta dissagreed Fenral. Crystal Tower really looked more than a castle than an energie facility.

Also may I ask why you guys are saing that Azys' La was sabotage on the maracydia break out? What I only remember for the node is that a dragon scape beacuse lack of mantenience 3000 years ago, if Azys La was sabotate, is was only beacuse of lack of mantenience, not beacause of 1 dragon's scape. Unless you mean all the dragons we see on that island? I thought it was something like a zoo or like that.