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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
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    The transfusion is what makes me think that the royal blood itself isn't special, theres a magic or magical object in the royal blood that is special that can be given at anytime. I think Graha's ancestor was given this blood etc etc and thus the eye came into being.

    I wish they'd add Desch and Salina, but if Desch and Salina had anything to do with Graha it'd be more likely Salina was the miqote and Desch the noble. In III salina is just some sickly girl who lives in Canaan who Desch falls in love with, she's a nobody. But Desch is the ancient with the task to watch over the tower and thus is frozen in time (more important). III is my fave FF ever so I love talking about how it might fit into XIV even more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zaviermhigo View Post
    I wish they'd add Desch and Salina, but if Desch and Salina had anything to do with Graha it'd be more likely Salina was the miqote and Desch the noble.
    The last quest in the CT chain gave us the name "Princess Salina" as pretty much the only justification for G'raha's actions. Going by Yoshida's comments before 2.5 hit, the logic was "G'raha == Desch, therefore he must sacrifice himself because that's what Desch did in FFIII, regardless of his own existing character logic". Wish I were kidding.

    Technically, Salina is the last Allagan Princess and G'raha is "Desch," but I've been using "Desch" for his anonymous ancestor who received the blood (and memories) from Salina. They were simultaneously trying to replay Desch's long hibernation in the Tower of Owen and his amnesia/destiny bit that ended with him throwing himself into the reactor. It's messy, to say the least.

    Only bit of hope I have left on that is that Desch (in FFIII) wasn't gone forever after the Tower of Owen event: he came back to save the Warriors when they needed him most and all seemed lost. Hasn't happened yet, though, even though Azys Lla seems like the perfect excuse.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    snip of you reminding me of this cs
    Thank you i totally forgot about this. For some reason I didn't remember, today I'm going to go rewatch some of those cutscenes. I remember part of the Graha ending but its been a while since I rewatched them. I was like "WHERE IS HERE GETTING SALINA FROM?" Thank you. Literally been over a year since I saw that CS XD

    In light of this...I think Graha will definitely come back when we need him most, I don't think that we are totally done with CT. Square Enix said they'd try to do the CT storyline to the best of their ability but one element is missing, are we Eureka? Yeah CT ended up leading up to the Void, but that's only one aspect of it, if it was shown to somehow also connect to another world (hey Shanttoto was here, lightning was here, I think we can get some cross dimension going on, especially since XIV is the XIVth world in the lore), we can add Graha back as kind of a guide and more lore insight into this. I actually think you are right to call Graha , Desch, since he is technically like Desch in action, and you are probably also right to call his ancestor Desch, cause that is probably what SE would do to change it up a bit XD

    I want to call him Gesch now.

    I just don't get how we spent all that time with Graha and Unei and Doga and didn't get like an echo flashback to olden days :/

    I just think it'd be cool if we were Eureka (its just a dungeon in III, but who's to say that isn't just one dungeon in all Hydaelyn), and some how later on CT led us into III's world. (Literally just a portal to another zone, not even that big and I'd be happy XD)

    More on why I think we'd be Eureka: Its a place in III where all the most powerful weapons were locked away. Masamune, Excalibur etc, all protected by a guardian. In this game they aren't protected by a guardian but we have a lot of awfully powerful weapons and crap going on. It would be interesting if XIV was just a throw away world, where other FF worlds dumped their dangerous garbage XD
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    Here's a old interview. It might shed some light as to what happened to the Allagan Empire post-calamity:

    A: We’ve seen the Allag have spacefaring technology. But we’re told that what destroyed them all was related to earth quakes. How did they get destroyed by earthquakes when they have space ships? Are there any still out there?

    F: They forgot to cast float I think.

    MCKF: Well I mean… us here on earth we have planes and ships that can go to the moon and things but there’s not a lot of them right? Most of the people are stil on the ground. Same thing with the Allag. An earthquake will still destroy everything on the ground like mission control.

    A: So we can say Dalamud was this high military grade project that was not representative of what the average person would have access too.

    MCKF: They were very technologically advanced and they tried to reach too high and that’s what brought down the wrath but you know… most of the people were down there doing their thing, listening to their iPods… (laughs) I’m not saying that Allagan technology is filled with iPods but they had their tech. They had USBs because Allagan Tomestones, all that information is in there. To a person 10,000 years in the future if there’s some kind of apocalypse on earth and someone picks up a FFXIV USB that we hand out at a Fan Fest or something they’ll be like “what is this? This is some kind of strange stone” and you plug it in and it’s just a bunch of my work documents. Some collector will collect them and give you great armor in exchange for them because someone has a little computer with a USB port on it.

    A: When you guys added the Duty Finder flavor text to the first coil, we realized that the internment hulk was an actual internment hulk and turn 4 not necessarily an elevator but a drive cylinder turned into a makeshift elevator. A lot of people were wondering then if they had space ships what were they doing getting killed down here?

    MCKF: Then there’s the question “So.. if they had spaceships did one or two of them get away?” I’m making my “I don’t know…. maaaaybe?” face. We all know that the Allagan civilization was destroyed because yeah, most of the people were on the ground. All of their power sources too, even if a ship did escape, there’s nothing there, fuel wise where can they go?
    http://gamerescape.com/2014/10/22/fan-fest-2014-interview-with-michael-christopher-koji-fox/
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    Last edited by myahele; 03-29-2016 at 04:18 AM.

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    Dammit SE, give us information on Rowena's patron that you've been teasing with us since her introduction! >=( I wonder if he's an Allagan survivor or just someone like Nael who had an Allagan gizmo and rediscovered how it works? Where does the Primal theme gear come from...? Grr...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrusArjuna View Post
    Dammit SE, give us information on Rowena's patron that you've been teasing with us since her introduction! >=( I wonder if he's an Allagan survivor or just someone like Nael who had an Allagan gizmo and rediscovered how it works? Where does the Primal theme gear come from...? Grr...
    She or someone close to her has a pc, aka allagan receptor for usb tomestones.
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