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    Singularity's Avatar
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    Ariane Aster
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Do we need to have this rant every single new raid tier?

    It happened in 2.21, it happened in 2.41, it happened in 2.56, it happened in 3.21, it will happen again in 3.41 and in 3.56. This seriously got old.
    Yes, yes we do. Until and unless they stop doing it.

    With coil you could say that there's story in there that everyone should get a chance to see, and that people need to beat old coil so they can catch up to do current coil - both of which are valid points and neither of which are true of Alexander savage.

    If, as others have said, the only reason left to do AS3 is for the challenge, then what's the point now it's been nerfed? Is there any satisfaction in knowing you beat a watered-down version?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laurima View Post
    the people who could clear this back when, have cleared
    That's not even slightly true. There will be people that start playing the game today who will acquire both the skill and inclination to clear this fight at its original difficulty, and now they will never have the chance to.
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    Last edited by Singularity; 03-10-2016 at 07:24 PM.

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    Stouter Taru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    There will be people that start playing the game today who will acquire both the skill and inclination to clear this fight at its original difficulty, and now they will never have the chance to.
    The nerf doesn't change that fact. With higher gear available and no reason for most of the player base to attempt it, the original difficulty is long gone.
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    Kaishen Commodore
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Do we need to have this rant every single new raid tier?
    They never nerfed nor added Second Coil Savage to the DF list (just overgearing+unsync), and we already had a normal easier mode this time around for the current raid tiers that should have been a supplement to not needing the optional harder version getting its mechanics difficulty nerfbatted.
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    They never nerfed nor added Second Coil Savage to the DF list (just overgearing+unsync), and we already had a normal easier mode this time around for the current raid tiers that should have been a supplement to not needing the optional harder version getting its mechanics difficulty nerfbatted.
    It's clear why they didn't nerf Second Coil Savage and nerfed Gordias Savage, and that's because of the rewards. That's the thing though, why does SE insist on throwing everyone's efforts down the gutter every patch? They nerf every hard to obtain item until it's worth nothing at all, even high end raiding equipment/mounts.
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    Lilli Karani
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    The reason for nerfing Coil was to open the story to more people.

    Now with Alex we have already an easy story mode. There was no reason to nerf them or to make it solo qeueable.
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    Videos mit der Hauptgeschichte und ausgewählten Nebenquestreihen (deutsch): https://www.youtube.com/user/KSVideo100

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    Ozzie Nyandias
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    I think this thread perfectly explains the state of the general ffxiv player base, cause gosh dang y'all suck a pattern recognition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velthice View Post
    I think this thread perfectly explains the state of the general ffxiv player base, cause gosh dang y'all suck a pattern recognition.
    Way to generalise everyone who hasn't done that content when it was new/relevant. Ever thought that people might not find it fun to lose hundrets of times to something before they may finally beat it or some others just don't have the time in to join a raid group in the first place?
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    Ozzie Nyandias
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silica-chan View Post
    Way to generalise everyone who hasn't done that content when it was new/relevant. Ever thought that people might not find it fun to lose hundrets of times to something before they may finally beat it or some others just don't have the time in to join a raid group in the first place?
    lolwut? I think the joke went so far above your head that it might actually be in orbit.
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    I bet most of the people complaining about nerfs haven't even got past Hand of Pain.
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    Depravicus Mana
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    seems like the only major nerf is to the adds. it was a rather easy phase to begin with. final phase will still demand very precise positioning.
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