Warrior Assitance.

[Sarcatica]

I'm curious what kind of numbers your PLD is doing by main tanking. We have the WAR pull Hummel with regular Unchained Berserk into Deliverance for hate lead, and swap mid way when CDs run low. Party also kills Faust on the WAR first, so I can pull in, and never drop, Sword Oath and avoid losing a GCD. I figured that was the best way to maintain high hate lead and lose as little GCDs as possible while maintaining max damage from both tanks. The last Faust kill, we had WAR around 896 and me PLD about 995, both of us being around i216 (sephi weapons).

Did over 1k while MT-ing, my faust add is always killed first too. You can tank in sword oath at the start without having shadewalker and aggro ripped.

[Kitfox]

You can tank in sword oath at the start without having shadewalker and aggro ripped.

I was trying this out on a dummy with some friends, but I just quite frankly don't see how it's possible. Do Shield Swipe procs really make such a difference? Because I was barely able to keep up with the DPS, losing hate several times, even when totally dropping RA and just using RoH while trying to get GB in. With Shadewalker it's doable but without? Just seems very inefficient compared to WAR pulling in tank stance for hate lead.

For Fausts specifically it might be possible if DPS spread their damage on both targets, but in general Sword pulling seems very impractical.

[Sarcatica]

I was trying this out on a dummy with some friends, but I just quite frankly don't see how it's possible. Do Shield Swipe procs really make such a difference? Because I was barely able to keep up with the DPS, losing hate several times, even when totally dropping RA and just using RoH while trying to get GB in. With Shadewalker it's doable but without? Just seems very inefficient compared to WAR pulling in tank stance for hate lead.

For Fausts specifically it might be possible if DPS spread their damage on both targets, but in general Sword pulling seems very impractical.

You can check my log and see if there is any difference at all. The DPS were creeping up real quick but as long as you drop RA for RoH, there shouldn't be a problem provided if you don't save FoF for Hummelfaust specifically.