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  1. #11
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    I skipped all of ARR story. I was annoyed with the story and having to go through it just to play the xpac. But HW was actually good and I watched and read every part
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  2. #12
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Dungeons, trials, raids, leves, mounts, airships, barber dude, retainers, grand companies (and therefore pvp) and Isles of Umbra are also locked behind Main Scenario. Shouldn't come as a surprise that some new things might require it also. Even if you got into Ishgard freely you'd have a pretty crappy time leveling without flying... cause it's also gated by the Main Scenario. So is the current expert roulette. Better get used to it cause it isn't going anywhere.
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    Slappah Lol
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    Maybe you should do some research next time you decide to spend money on something
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  4. #14
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    Yawn Alexander
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    yoshida actually mentioned this was a mistake on his part, and said the MSQs won't be required for future expansions. they're jsut not going to fix it for this one, because they prefer moving forward instead of revising old content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasely View Post
    yoshida actually mentioned this was a mistake on his part, and said the MSQs won't be required for future expansions. they're jsut not going to fix it for this one, because they prefer moving forward instead of revising old content.
    So they dont care about new players either? That sounds like a flawed business model.
    I bought this game due to seeing all of the great reviews for heavensward.
    I just figured this game would work like every other mmo - when an expac is released you get to do new things right away. but i guess not. Oh well.

    And to all of you fanboys defending the fact that heavensward is gated behind 100 filler quests you have to know that it's pretty silly. They could have combined everything into 1 large quest which generally explained everything and took an hour or two. But they didnt.
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    Miles Saintborough
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    And how do you propose they put everything in a compressed package? A few quests I can see them trimming out, but it's literally impossible to cut a huge chunk of the quests without rewriting the story.
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  7. #17
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    Yawn Alexander
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    Quote Originally Posted by EpicName View Post
    So they dont care about new players either? That sounds like a flawed business model.
    I bought this game due to seeing all of the great reviews for heavensward.
    I just figured this game would work like every other mmo - when an expac is released you get to do new things right away. but i guess not. Oh well.

    And to all of you fanboys defending the fact that heavensward is gated behind 100 filler quests you have to know that it's pretty silly. They could have combined everything into 1 large quest which generally explained everything and took an hour or two. But they didnt.
    They want you to suffer through the endless drudgery of performing menial tasks for no real reward, like carrying items 20 paces because an NPC is too lazy to walk across a room. I honestly feel for you. the ARR quests were mostly useless filler and boring exposition which had nothing to do with actually advancing the story. They could cut out 80% of the post 50 per-Heavensward quests and you wouldn't lose anything at all. I feel for you; really, I do. But I can't make SE fix that hotmess of a story.

    that said, Heavensward's story is truly an amazing adventure full of action, suspence and interesting characters who treat you like a hero, rather than a glorified mule.
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    Last edited by Chasely; 03-09-2016 at 06:26 AM.

  8. #18
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by EpicName View Post
    And to all of you fanboys defending the fact that heavensward is gated behind 100 filler quests you have to know that it's pretty silly. They could have combined everything into 1 large quest which generally explained everything and took an hour or two. But they didnt.
    Good luck with that. The final cutscene alone is almost an hour long.
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  9. #19
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    U'semih Gah
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    Quote Originally Posted by EpicName View Post
    So they dont care about new players either? That sounds like a flawed business model.
    I bought this game due to seeing all of the great reviews for heavensward.
    I just figured this game would work like every other mmo - when an expac is released you get to do new things right away. but i guess not. Oh well.

    And to all of you fanboys defending the fact that heavensward is gated behind 100 filler quests ect
    Lol such whining.. all of the quests between the end of the original storyline and beginning of heavensward can be finished in three days at most. Besides that /going to Ishgard to begin with is tied in to the story and nothing going on there including the entire dark knight storyline would make any sense at all without having first finished the storylines leading up to you getting there and all of the areas are level 50+ so you wouldn't be wandering around at a low level anyway unless you wanted your face eaten/

    Not every MMO hands you things, wanting to play heavensward immediately would be like buying a three book series and starting on book two without reading book one "because book two got better reviews"

    Those "100 filler quests" were actually amusing to me, and didn't take long to get through, and if you aren't a "fanboy" or whatever then why are you even playing. There are plenty of instant gratification games around according to all the every other mmo nonesense being thrown around. Have fun playing those, i bet with the exception of the ones that people play like an addict punching holes in the wall over they aren't around as long as XIV will be.
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    Last edited by Aryalandi; 03-09-2016 at 06:37 AM.
    Viera looks amazing
    Hrothgar looks amazing
    Shadowbringers looks amazing
    Everything looks amazing
    ....
    .....
    So obviously it's all a trap and the world is factually coming to an end..

  10. #20
    Player
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    Yawn Alexander
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    Because some people are casual fans or new to a genre, and that's okay. How about instead of attacking him, you offer to help him? Everything's more fun with a friendly face.

    EpicName, what days do you play? I'll level a character on diabolos and we can slog through those 100 quests together.
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    Last edited by Chasely; 03-09-2016 at 06:38 AM.

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