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    Feast team setups

    Hey,
    since we are waiting for the feast to get here i have been thinking about which possible teams i should be joining and which teams i should expect to face. I understand that we will see alot of SMN in there, but what kind of team setup would be the go to teams in your opinion.

    Also, any suggestions for MNK based team setups please. Havent played wolves den so im not sure how they did there, and i want to try monk first since its my main
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    8v8 is it? Drk/war mnk/nin Smn/Blm astro/sch
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    im sure the ranked version is 4v4 not 8v8, someone correct me if im wrong
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    its 4v4 ranked only.

    PLD/AST/MNK/SMN, PLD/AST/MNK/MCH,

    its gonna be like that for every comp. The only bad job in pvp really is DRK, and im sure it can at least do its job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    its 4v4 ranked only.

    PLD/AST/MNK/SMN, PLD/AST/MNK/MCH,

    its gonna be like that for every comp. The only bad job in pvp really is DRK, and im sure it can at least do its job.
    Just out of curiosity, why is MNK so valued? As compared to nin or drg? I've seen those people with like 30+ kills with mnk but on paper they seem like they wouldn't be great since they need gl3 stacks and positionals. Is it OIP? Or is it the gap closer? What am I missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorbot View Post
    Just out of curiosity, why is MNK so valued? As compared to nin or drg? I've seen those people with like 30+ kills with mnk but on paper they seem like they wouldn't be great since they need gl3 stacks and positionals. Is it OIP? Or is it the gap closer? What am I missing?
    One ilm punch maybe? Its not gap closer as both Nin and Drg get an extra gap closer over monk. I dont believe its necessarily monks burst either as Drg has the strongest burst of all 3 melee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    One ilm punch maybe? Its not gap closer as both Nin and Drg get an extra gap closer over monk. I dont believe its necessarily monks burst either as Drg has the strongest burst of all 3 melee.
    Precisely this. They will be a hard counter to SMN with both One Ilm Punch and Dragon Kick. Since SMN will likely be one of the most played classes, MNK will fit right into the meta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renault View Post
    Precisely this. They will be a hard counter to SMN with both One Ilm Punch and Dragon Kick. Since SMN will likely be one of the most played classes, MNK will fit right into the meta.
    I agree, but I can't help but wonder if the meta will shift as Feast progresses. I don't play as Smn, so I don't know for sure, but when I'm playing against them their biggest advantage seems to be burst and range. In Seize they can safely hide behind a party or alliance and kill noobs all match without much trouble. In The Fold, however, I find them far less intimidating, because they don't have anyone to hide behind and have a lot less room to run away. Melee dps (especially mnk's) can gap close and completely shut down a Smn in such a small format match, so maybe it's possible for other ranged jobs to outclass the Smn, at least in utility.

    I don't have any ranged characters, so I don't know how they all compare. Are there any experienced ranged players out there who could provide an objective breakdown of utility vs burst for the ranged classes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorbot View Post
    Just out of curiosity, why is MNK so valued? As compared to nin or drg? I've seen those people with like 30+ kills with mnk but on paper they seem like they wouldn't be great since they need gl3 stacks and positionals. Is it OIP? Or is it the gap closer? What am I missing?
    It's equal with DRG, the OP was just asking for setups involving monk. thats why I only posted monk setups.

    If I were to say anything for Monk value making it any better than DRG it would be One Ilm Punch being able to shave off pretty much any defensive and offensive buff.

    But like I said I wasn't really giving exact comps, more like trying to show the OP monk can fit into any of the comps. If I were to list best comps from personal opinion it'd probably differ a bit. The DPS are pretty interchangeable . They all bring something to the table. Where as the healers and tanks PLD/AST will probably be a bit ahead for comps.

    in other words best comps will probably be

    PLD/AST/X/X

    Op asked for monk so replace one X
    PLD/AST/MNK/X

    I think pretty much any comp will be viable but something like

    DRK/SCH/MNK/BRD

    would be really odd and wouldn't work very well in my opinion.
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    Last edited by Cynric; 03-09-2016 at 07:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorbot View Post
    Just out of curiosity, why is MNK so valued? As compared to nin or drg? I've seen those people with like 30+ kills with mnk but on paper they seem like they wouldn't be great since they need gl3 stacks and positionals. Is it OIP? Or is it the gap closer? What am I missing?
    As a full VIT sch. Monk is the only dps 1vs1 with all cooldowns that can kill me. The stuns, with one ilm usable all the time, aura blast is the perfect distance for shoulder tackle. I would much rather have 2 plds pounding on me then one monk.
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