Rage of Halone / Shield Swipe Changes:

[Februs]

This is now officially a thread about Peanut Butter Brownies!

I'm enjoying this trend we have going recently of replacing useless threads with ways to indulge my sweet tooth lol. I'm not a big fan of peanut butter, but this +1 to my growing list of recipes I've been taking off the Tank forums.

[Torunya]

I'm enjoying this trend we have going recently of replacing useless threads with ways to indulge my sweet tooth lol. I'm not a big fan of peanut butter, but this +1 to my growing list of recipes I've been taking off the Tank forums.

You are very welcome, friend! ^^

[Awful]

Just make paladins a healer and we'll fix these paladin issues once and for all. Have a tank and a healer? Now that's micro managing.

Tired of those pesky White mages stealing your LB? Well fear no more! Paladins LB will cause shields AND rezzes for raids, why bring healers when paladins can heal and be the most supreme healer and tank? That's what we need more of Riot Blade can refill your mana in 1 swing it's the META ability that allows paladins to tank and heal without a healer.

Shield oath? What's that piece of crap I want Swor- I mean MAN OATH you know where you go and increase your tankiness and dmg and healing for the low cost of a GCD now that's a bang for your buck right there! This ability is taught at 35 so you know you got the best deal compared to the other tanks who get their "tank" stance we get "man" stance where paladins are unstoppable!

Cross class Cure immediately after hitting lvl 30 why you may ask? The healing threat caused by Cure overshadows Flash it's insane just how effective it is and your healers and DPS will praise you and bring you to their child's show and tell for science class you'll be praised that much!

Upon successfully clearing Seph EX solo (I mean it's not hard as a paladin especially with Cure) Yoshi-P will email directly and give you free Midas Savage gear and say to you upon reading the email you'll see the tag as "Pld working as intended" which you know it's not as plds OP as all hell.

TLDR; stop making these threads and get a clue about tanking I just posted this because it's almost as much of a wasted forum post as all yours put together.

[Khalithar]

Agree on giving pld more aoe damage but I don't think this is the solution. Honestly (and I know I've posted this a lot before but I'm going to say it again) I think pld needs an MP using damage aoe, a non-high threat one with a high potency on the gcd that costs a little bit more than flash. Pld's mp as a whole is (I believe) grossly underutilized.

[Rubytoe]

Shield Swipe
Delivers an attack with a potency of 150.
Can only be used immediately after blocking an attack, or if the target's target has blocked or parried.
Additional Effect: Pacification for 6s.
Additional Effect: Reduce target's strength by 10% for 20s.

Rage of Halone
Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
Additional Effect: Increased enmity.
Combo Action: Savage Blade, Combo Potency: 260
Combo Bonus: Delivers an attack with a potency of 50 to all nearby enemies.

I agree with all this. Rage of halone should cleave in front of the paladin, since its a huge blue wave of energy. Just like overpower does. I also think The str debuff should apply to all targets touched by the cleave.

[Phileas]

Actually if they changed Goring blade to be a frontal cone attack with a reduction in DoT damage, I would be really happy.

I would rather keep rage of halone/shield swipe as they are with the one change above. It would make Goring blade useful on trash...

[DeimosLB]

Why not have Royal Authority be an AoE/AoE DoT w/Enmity generation? The move already has you spinning when using it (Kind of like a jumping Link Spin Slash.)

Also I would like something done with Shield Swipe. There should be some action/thing that happens to reset the Cool Down of the Ability... We have Sheltron that is on a 30s Cool Down that lasts 10s guaranteed to block and Bulwark on a 180s Cool Down that lasts 15s increases block chance by 60%. Yet Shield Swipe is on a 30 Second Cool Down that can only be used after blocking... We have 25s of potential blocking, but after that first block it is 24s of just mildly reduced damage (20% I think) and only 1 Shield Swipe. Just seems like a wasted ability.

Maybe reset the ability on Parry or Dodge even... Something to get more utility out of Shield Swipe.

My 2 cents.

[Valkyrie-Amber]

neither just this
Royal Authority
TP cost: 130
Delivers an attack with a potency of 130.
Additional Effect: Increased enmity.
Combo Action: Savage Blade, Combo Potency: 320
Combo Bonus: Delivers an attack with a potency of 120 to enermys foward cone arc.

then pld can mt and have an equivelent aoe ability to the other two tanks and good ot dps

adjust eminity modifier to be same as warriors overpower.

[Kosmos992k]

Give RoH a short range line attack effect giving targets affected (other than the targeted mob) 50% of the damage inflicted and the strength debuff. RoH already looks like a short range line or narrow cone of effect anyway. Range should be limited to something just beyond normal melee range.

Give Shield Swipe a melee range 120 degree frontal arc with targets other than the targeted mob taking only 50% of the damage, but still getting the pacification debuff. A swiping action carries through an arc, the action is shield swipe, not shield slap, so let the swipe be a swipe.

The RoH modification could be linked via a trait to Sword Oath, and the Shield Swipe change tied to Shield Oath in the same manner. Make it a level 60 trait if you want to include it in HW, or make it a level 61 trait if you want to include it in the 4.X expansion.

Also, let's drop the recast time for SS from 15s to 10s, and proc it on a successful block or parry.

[Lethallin]

Ya'll are making some really complex and not so great solutions when you could just give flash damage.

Putting an AoE at the end of a 3 hit combo as a tank would be incredibly annoying to use effectively.