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    Rage of Halone / Shield Swipe Changes:

    Shield Swipe
    Delivers an attack with a potency of 150.
    Can only be used immediately after blocking an attack, or if the target's target has blocked or parried.
    Additional Effect: Pacification for 6s.
    Additional Effect: Reduce target's strength by 10% for 20s.

    Rage of Halone
    Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
    Additional Effect: Increased enmity.
    Combo Action: Savage Blade, Combo Potency: 260
    Combo Bonus: Delivers an attack with a potency of 50 to all nearby enemies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Shield Swipe
    Delivers an attack with a potency of 150.
    Can only be used immediately after blocking an attack.
    Additional Effect: Pacification for 6s.
    Additional Effect: Reduce target's strength by 10% for 20s.

    Rage of Halone
    Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
    Additional Effect: Increased enmity.
    Combo Action: Savage Blade, Combo Potency: 260
    Combo Bonus: Delivers an attack with a potency of 50 to all nearby enemies.
    So...

    First, you're taking away one of the bigger parts of what little OT utility Paladins have by putting the Strength debuff on an ability that requires being MT to be accessible.

    Second, you're adding an arbitrary AoE component to Rage of Halone.

    Nah.

    Paladins need more AoE DPS, I'll admit, but this isn't the way to do it.
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    Last edited by Jpec07; 03-08-2016 at 08:56 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    FiStrength debuff on an ability that requires being MT to be accessible.
    Fixed. Not that hard to fix it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    Second, you're adding an arbitrary AoE component to Rage of Halone.
    Why not? Its a unique way to do it and its different. It gives them some aoe aggression and doesn't really give them an AOE pump damage skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Fixed. Not that hard to fix it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Shield Swipe
    Delivers an attack with a potency of 150.
    Can only be used immediately after blocking an attack, or if the target's target has blocked or parried.
    Additional Effect: Pacification for 6s.
    Additional Effect: Reduce target's strength by 10% for 20s.
    I do hope you realize the technological nightmare involved in coding an ability to proc on someone else's random proc. It also doesn't fit with the theme of the action, which is essentially using your shield to counter when it's been hit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Why not? Its a unique way to do it and its different. It gives them some aoe aggression and doesn't really give them an AOE pump damage skill.
    What Paladins are lacking is the ability to truly break ahead and do burst AoE. What you're suggesting is a small sustained AoE boost, with 50 potency/9sec max uptime per enemy. When you compare that to the potency a SMN, BLM, or MNK will be able to put out during that time, there's no way it would make up the difference. Paladins would still have to tab target and flash often to keep hate in AoE heavy groups.
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    Last edited by Jpec07; 03-08-2016 at 09:03 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    I do hope you realize the technological nightmare involved in coding an ability to proc on someone else's random proc. It also doesn't fit with the theme of the action, which is essentially using your shield to counter when it's been hit.
    Worked in other games. At least I am not just complaining about it. You could offer help or tell me what youd do rather then sit back and say it doesn't work lol.
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    Here is one for why not to change Rage of Halone like you are: While it may not matter to primarily magical attackers, that Str debuff is reliable BECAUSE its on RoH, and one RoH combo every 20 secs as OT isn't going to pull hate off of the MT, and naturally it'll pretty much always be up as MT. On Shield Swipe its too unreliable similar to DRK's Reprisal, and THAT one does a damage debuff instead of just strength.

    Also if they were to change Shield Swipe that way, they probably would remove the Pacification effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Worked in other games. At least I am not just complaining about it. You could offer help or tell me what youd do rather then sit back and say it doesn't work lol.
    I've offered it in other threads. Honestly, I'm surprised I'm indulging you this much, given your propensity for suggesting changes that aren't needed and problems that don't exist.

    But alright, here goes.

    Riot Blade Goring Blade
    GLD Level 12 Action
    Delivers an attack with a potency of 100
    Combo Action: Fast Blade
    Combo Potency: 230
    Combo Bonus: Damage over time
    • Potency: 30
    • Duration: 18s

    Enhanced Flash
    GLD Level 20 Trait
    Adds Blind effect to Flash, and causes Flash to spread Goring Blade damage over time effect to all nearby enemies.

    Sword Oath
    PLD Level 30 Action
    Deals additional damage with a potency of 50 after each auto-attack, and boosts Mind stat according to current attack power. Cannot be used with Shield Oath. Effect ends on reuse.

    Enhanced Goring Blade
    GLD Level 35 Trait (new)
    Goring Blade's Damage over time effect now has a potency of 50 and lasts 24s.

    Shield Oath
    PLD Level 40 Action
    Reduces damage received by 20%, while lowering damage dealt by 15% and increasing enmity. Also increases chance to hit by 5%, and boosts Mind stat according to current Attack Power. Cannot be used with Sword Oath. Effect ends upon reuse.

    Circle of Scorn
    GLD Level 50 Action
    Delivers an attack with a potency of 100 to all nearby enemies.
    Additional Effect: Increased Enmity
    Additional Effect: Damage over time
    • Potency: 30
    • Duration: 15s
    • Additional Effect: Flash extends duration of effect by 3 seconds.

    Goring Blade Riot Blade
    PLD Level 54 Action
    Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
    Combo Action: Goring Blade
    Combo Potency: 240
    • Combo Bonus: Restores MP
    • Combo Bonus: Swiftcast
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    I have a suggestion that will fix up these problems once and for all

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    This is now officially a thread about Peanut Butter Brownies!

    Ingredients:
    • 1/2 cup (115g) salted butter1
    • 8 ounces (228g) coarsely chopped quality semi-sweet chocolate2
    • 3/4 cup (150g) granulated sugar
    • 1/4 cup (50g) packed light brown sugar
    • 3 large Eggland's Best eggs
    • 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
    • 1/2 cup + 2 Tablespoons (80g) all-purpose flour (measure this accurately)
    • 2 Tablespoons (11g) unsweetened cocoa powder
    • 1/4 teaspoon salt

    PEANUT BUTTER FILLING
    • 3/4 cup (185g) creamy peanut butter
    • 1 cup (120g) confectioners' sugar
    • 2 teaspoons vanilla extract
    • 2 Tablespoons (30ml) milk
    • 2 Tablespoons each chocolate chips and peanut butter chips
    Directions:

    1. Melt the butter and chopped chocolate in a medium saucepan on medium heat, stirring constantly, about 5 minutes. Or melt in a medium microwave safe bowl in 20 second increments, stirring after each, in the microwave. Remove from the heat, pour into a large mixing bowl, and allow to slightly cool for 10 minutes.

    2. While the chocolate mixture is cooling, make the peanut butter filling. In a medium bowl using a handheld or stand mixer fitted with a paddle attachment, beat the peanut butter, confectioners' sugar, vanilla, and milk together on medium-high speed until combined. The mixture will be very thick - like a crumbly cookie dough. Set aside.

    3. Adjust the oven rack to the lower third position and preheat oven to 350F degrees. Line the bottom and sides of a 9x9 inch square baking pan with aluminum foil, leaving an overhand on all sides. Set aside.

    4. Whisk the granulated and brown sugars into the cooled chocolate/butter mixture. Add the eggs, one at a time, whisking until smooth after each addition. Whisk in the vanilla. Gently fold in the flour, cocoa powder, and salt.

    5. Pour/spread half of the brownie batter into the prepared baking pan. Take large chunks of the peanut butter filling and flatten with your hands. Place flat pieces in an even layer on top of the brownie layer, as shown in the photo above. Pour/spread the remaining brownie batter on top. Top with the chocolate chips and peanut butter chips. Using the back of a spatula, gently press the chips into the brownie batter.

    6. Bake for 35-36 minutes or until the brownies begin to pull away from the edges of the pan. (The brownies may slightly crack in the center - that's because air in between the peanut butter layers is trying to escape. That's normal!) A toothpick inserted in the center should come out with only a few moist crumbs when the brownies are done. All ovens are different, so keep an eye on them after 30 minutes and use the toothpick test to see when yours are finished.

    7. Allow the brownies to cool completely in the pan set on a wire rack. Once cooled, lift the foil out of the pan using the overhang on the sides and cut into squares. For neat squares, I use a very sharp knife and wipe it clean with a paper towel after each cut.

    8. Make ahead tip: Brownies stay fresh in an airtight container at room temperature for 1 week. You can freeze the brownies for up to 3 months. Thaw overnight in the refrigerator before serving and glazing.
    Courtesy of Sally's baking addiction <3
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    Where's my daily baked deliciousness, Toruyna?

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