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  1. #51
    Player
    Viuiji's Avatar
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    Feb 2015
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    Character
    V'iuji Za'xary
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    I just completed my 118th run in Bismarck..... Only seen the whistle drop 5 times total... Never rolled higher than a 53..

    I don't want it to be easy, but.. my god, I think I want to hurt myself...
    (2)

  2. #52
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    Evangela's Avatar
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    グリダニア
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    Character
    Evangela Monterossa
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    It supposes to be a rare drop and make people farm these old content so many times. Working as intended.
    (1)

  3. #53
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    AngieAK's Avatar
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    Character
    Willa Rose
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 70
    Two days, 75 clears on Bismarck, seen 4 whistles. I would be happy with a 99 token turn in system.
    (1)

  4. #54
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    SleepyBee's Avatar
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    Character
    Sleepy Bee
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    I'd love a 99 token trade in. I know this low drop rate was the situation for ponies back then and people had to just bite the bullet until the drop rates were raised much later. But it's not just a drop rate, it's also having to roll for it on top of that.

    Personally, I think I've been lucky with the drop rate. I've done 90-someodd runs of rav and 90-someodd of bis. I've seen over 10 birds in that time and ALL my rolls have been horrible except for 2 which were of course beaten. Realistically, don't get excited about any roll unless you've rolled 90 or above.

    On 2 occassions, fc members joined me in some farm groups. 1 of them won the bis bird on the 4th try, the other won the rav bird on their FIRST. Seeing that happen, after having done nearly 100 runs each of both primals made me want to hurt myself.
    (4)

  5. #55
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    Azper's Avatar
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    Character
    Aria Ashford
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Ehh, I'll nab them all at the end of the 3.0 series when the drop rates are better.
    (0)

  6. #56
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    Rikku1987's Avatar
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    Character
    Miqo Te
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    30x Thordan, 20x Ravana 10x Bismarck. Didn't see a single drop

    I'll rather not farm them and wait for drop buff. I mean i have time but not that much time...
    (1)

  7. #57
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    Marxam's Avatar
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    Character
    Blackiron Tarkus
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    Sad to say but this is SE's answer to keeping subs. Personally I have an issue with developers using rng as a means of prolonging content and it's especially troublesome when its SE's rng. I've stopped farming for the time being as my current record is 57 BisEX with 3 drops and I haven't rolled above 30. I'm not even gonna bother with the other primals if my roll's are any indication. Idk why they couldn't have just made it a 200 token turn in. At least then it would still be a long term tangible goal instead of just hoping to get one and if you get the drop before then well congratulations.

    They do this to encourage people to go back and run said content but when a player is disheartened by bad luck they eventually stop running it entirely or get bored and move on to something else like other games.
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    Last edited by Marxam; 03-08-2016 at 06:50 PM.

  8. #58
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    Kuwagami's Avatar
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    Oct 2013
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Kuwagami Tarynke
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 78
    Someone here missed my post last week.

    It took me 142 runs to even see my first lanner (ravana one). Glad I got it first time.

    To people suggesting stacks of totems, I'd see it work with 3-4 full stacks, but no less. 300-400 runs total is around the estimate chance to get it anyway (2% drop + 1/8 chance to beat the other guys). 99 totems are just too easy to get (6ish hours of primal farming for ravana and bismarck)

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Yeah, and usually the ones saying "it's RNG, get over it," are the ones who got theirs after 10 runs. I'm pretty sure if they were up over 100+ runs, they sure wouldn't be telling others to get over it.
    Are my 142 runs of nothingness enough to be able to say "it's RNG, get over it" ?

    At least the PFs to beat ravana and bismarck, and even the DF, are decent. That was not the case back in ponies days, when 70% of the "farm" parties couldn't handle even garuda Ex, let alone pass Titan Ex
    (4)
    Last edited by Kuwagami; 03-08-2016 at 07:11 PM.

  9. #59
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    Aivi_lo's Avatar
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    Character
    Aivi Kupo
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    Am I the only one who wishes you could turn those hive/expanse tokens in for a falcon instead of hoping that RNG is on your side?
    Why is this not a thing? I have thrown away stacks upon stacks on diamond dust. Why couldn't I have exchanged for a diamond tear or whistle? Or even the unidentifiable objects?
    (0)

  10. #60
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    Unittj's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    R'nehva Tia
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    I wish I could even find a good farm party to begin with. Lol. Most groups I've gone with can't even clear Bismarck Ex the first run.

    However, I'm at 44 and 2 drops. Both rolled under 35.

    Last one a DRG who died for 5 clears in a row got it. Sometimes I wish underperformance wrecked your RNG as much as on spot performance would up it. If technology could do such a thing.
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