Horrible drop rate for primal falcons

[Kerwin]

Reminder to never join "first come first serve" parties for farming these mounts. For obvious reasons.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Reminder to never join "first come first serve" parties for farming these mounts. For obvious reasons.

Very good point. Free for all or don't count on me joining.

[TheCurls]

First come first serve parties aren't all bad. If the people you're partying with are good, honest people, then it's fine. I got my Bismarck bird after 4 nights of farming the duty with the same group of people. I started number 8 on the list.

The problems arise when you get players that join those groups and then bail the moment they get their loot.

[Cidel]

The problems arise when you get players that join those groups and then bail the moment they get their loot.

Which is how about half of the 8 whistles I've seen out of 130 Bismark runs turn out.

Any variation of "I'm tired," "I'm hungry" or someone else drops and they take it as an opportunity to slide out.

I got my Bismarck bird after 4 nights of farming the duty with the same group of people

You are extremely lucky to have 7 other people who cooperate until everyone gets something. If it wasn't your raid static or FC, then bravo.

[Darkstride]

Personally I saw relatively decent drop rates on Falcons. I ran Ravana 11 times with 2 drops (lost the rolls) and 18 Bismarck Ex with 3 drops (I won the last one).

That's a better rate than I saw when I recently farmed Shiva Ex for a Pony. She was brutal.

RNG is RNG. Sometimes it's hateful and sometimes it's generous. My personal nightmare with RNG is that I ALWAYS roll crap numbers if it's something I want. When I finally got a Shiva pony, it was because everyone else already had one ....lol.

[Asuras]

The easier an item is to acquire the less value it contains. These are currently the highest valued items in the game, so yes - of course they're going to have a super-low drop rate.

Ah, classic illogic. Although you may be correct, you cannot assume that just because A -> B that B-> A. For example, it may be found that a person who purhases peanut butter is highly likely to also purchase bread. However, this does not mean that a person who purchases bread is highly likely to purchase peanut butter.

[Eidolon]

I'm very mixed on this bird drop rate. I really dislike how low the rate is to force the content to be spammed - it feels like content fluff, and not actual content. I had more fun in Pony farms with the increased drop rate, even when I (frequently) didn't get mine - at least I felt like I was working towards it.

With the lower drop rate, I feel a sort of numb indifference to going back and spamming the trials to get it. It doesn't feel wortwhile to do, for me. Humerously, this personality actually saw me getting the drop for Sephirot-EX.

[Welsper59]

I'm very mixed on this bird drop rate. I really dislike how low the rate is to force the content to be spammed - it feels like content fluff, and not actual content. I had more fun in Pony farms with the increased drop rate, even when I (frequently) didn't get mine - at least I felt like I was working towards it.

With the lower drop rate, I feel a sort of numb indifference to going back and spamming the trials to get it. It doesn't feel wortwhile to do, for me. Humerously, this personality actually saw me getting the drop for Sephirot-EX.

In the case of vanity, low drop rates are generally placed there for the prestige. It's as much of actual content as any other glamour/vanity piece added to the game is considered actual content. For people farming them right this very moment, knowing that the drop rate will increase in the future, they are farming for that prestige... whether or not they realize it is irrelevant.

Once the drop rate increases however, the general value goes down because prestige becomes non-existent, but you get the self satisfaction of having it if that's a benefit to you or anyone else. It's one of the same reasons why Savage or endgame in general doesn't just rain all equips to everyone at the same time. There's prestige and arbitrary value in being one of the few to first obtain them before anyone else.

[Eidolon]

In the case of vanity, low drop rates are generally placed there for the prestige. It's as much of actual content as any other glamour/vanity piece added to the game is considered actual content. For people farming them right this very moment, knowing that the drop rate will increase in the future, they are farming for that prestige... whether or not they realize it is irrelevant.

Once the drop rate increases however, the general value goes down because prestige becomes non-existent, but you get the self satisfaction of having it if that's a benefit to you or anyone else. It's one of the same reasons why Savage or endgame in general doesn't just rain all equips to everyone at the same time. There's prestige and arbitrary value in being one of the few to first obtain them before anyone else.

I don't think I'll ever understand the "Prestige" angle, but I don't think I can deny that some people genuinely care about... such an arbitrary thing. xD

[CUTS3R]

I don't think I'll ever understand the "Prestige" angle, but I don't think I can deny that some people genuinely care about... such an arbitrary thing. xD

The "prestige" thing you mention is exactly why I stopped using Kirin after they buffed the droprate. I got it before buffs and to my eyes it has now totally lost is value and isn't rare anymore. Especially now that you can unsynch stuff.

Call me hipster but yeah i don't like to use mounts and minions the majority of people can easily get aswell.

Thats why i ride Nightmare in ARR maps, Rose lanner falcon in HW and run around with a wind up Twintania.

When 4.0 comes and the "future-Kirin-bird-whatever" becomes alot easier to get just like ponies, i will surely stop using it too.