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    Player
    Rinsui's Avatar
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    Rin Legacy
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    Mandragora
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50

    "Job XXX only" parties

    ...and here we go again. People in Ul'dah shouting for "Job XXX only" for the LV50 Ifrit fight. For those of us who did not jump on the powerleveling bandwagon soon enough to get the jobs they do not really like to play leveled, it simply sucks.

    It's astonishing SE actually managed to repeat the class-exclusivity mistake once again.

    And don't tell me it's the players fault. It's a design flaw when the same content is easily beatable by job combination X, but a job combination Y will decrease your chances of success by factor 5. Especially since there's no alternative to Conjurers. Which people like to invite 3/8 members.
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    Krausus's Avatar
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    Krausus Dracul
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    Famfrit
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    Ninja Lv 90
    I think its just because of the newness, even DH eventually evened out in most cases.
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    Tony Tony
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 30
    I've yet to see this on my server. What jobs are they restricting parties to? O.o
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    its alittle unfair to blame the design team for this. there is only so much testing they can do. then when it goes live the comunity almost always find out things that have been missed by the dev's. this is not exculsive to FF14 it happens with almost all new content in all MMO's. we can only hope the dev have noticed this flaw and have plans to fix it. either that or get casting
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    What I have shown you is reality. What you remember, that is the illusion.

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    Akira_Tenshi's Avatar
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    Akira Tenshi
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 80
    Wow is patch 1.21 out already? I didn't know we had jobs!!!


    Just try making your own party.
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    Starlord's Avatar
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    Luna Sushima
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    Siren
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    Samurai Lv 91
    In FF games, its always has been " Having the the right combination of Class/job" Always need a couple healers, or else your Tank/party will die, Always need a Tank or your party won't last against his/her attacks, Always Need DD/nukes to take down your foe, if you have no Damage you won't kill the foe ( especially a boss).

    You do need " somewhat" of a setup. The DD aspect of it all I get anything related to Damage. BUT, I always get a GLA/2~3 healers/ Rest DDs. If you don't have that Basic Formula, You will die @ a boss at the very least.
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    Aedan Yarborough
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    Balmung
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    Goldsmith Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    In FF games, its always has been " Having the the right combination of Class/job" Always need a couple healers, or else your Tank/party will die, Always need a Tank or your party won't last against his/her attacks, Always Need DD/nukes to take down your foe, if you have no Damage you won't kill the foe ( especially a boss).

    You do need " somewhat" of a setup. The DD aspect of it all I get anything related to Damage. BUT, I always get a GLA/2~3 healers/ Rest DDs. If you don't have that Basic Formula, You will die @ a boss at the very least.
    Just to add to what Star is saying, there is a basic formula but it is maleable. Anyone that tells you that only X party set up will work is simply parroting back what someone told him. It's not true to that degree. But, yes, you do need a certain distribution of healers if you want to succeed.

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    Luna Sushima
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    Siren
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    Samurai Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Just to add to what Star is saying, there is a basic formula but it is maleable. Anyone that tells you that only X party set up will work is simply parroting back what someone told him. It's not true to that degree. But, yes, you do need a certain distribution of healers if you want to succeed.
    I defied the Odds.. and didn't use a SINGLE ARC... and guess what Our Linkshell Prevailed against Orge ( many times over lolz) You can do any setup you desire, because I am sure there are Multiple setups people can use. Its only for when, someone finds " the first" setup that works.. EVERYONE does the same thing, ignoring the fact of other Possibilities are out there to beat said content.
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    Doctor Mog
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 51
    WoW has this same issue.

    So does FFXI,

    So does Rift

    Class based games need certain classes to accomplish content.

    Thats how it works.
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    Last edited by DoctorMog; 10-22-2011 at 02:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    WoW has this same issue.

    So does FFXI,

    So does Rift

    Class based games need certain classes to accomplish content.

    Thats how it works.
    QFT
    FFXI was the only game that i think at one point had it worse than all of those games (im looking at you SMN, BST, and DRG)
    (0)
    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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