Male Armor Sets too flamboyant. Bring full armor back!

[hagare]

How about High Mythrite Cuirass of Fending?

I call that a good start

[AnduinLynn]

Yeah, I agree, the armor sets look very weird for males. The open chest just does not make much sense to me; from a battle stance, or from a thematic standpoint. As a warrior, I feel like the base set should look strong, intimidating, fitting for a war-ready fighter....but the chest is open and exposed, as if asking for an arrow to the heart. The arguments for "differing opinions" and "fantasy game" are fine and all, but from an immersive standpoint it would not make much sense to fight in the gear's design, and I feel like if people want to wear armor that does not make sense in battle and look more flamboyant, that should be a secondary choice to the game's actual environment.

[Leigaon]

As a warrior, I feel like the base set should look strong, intimidating, fitting for a war-ready fighter....but the chest is open and exposed, as if asking for an arrow to the heart.

In their defense, there is nothing more terrifying than a Roe in a pair of tighty whities swinging an axe in a pair of stiletto shoes. That's a warrior of light you just don't want to screw with!

On a serious note though, a lot of the new gear that's come out isn't as awesome as say..that coil turn 1 gear. I saw that and am still in love with it.

I think they are trying, but at the same time being creative. Maybe there will be a series of future sets that have heavier. Though on the other hand, there are a ton of options out there. I think that's where people get upset over, is that they get mad there isn't a helmet that's manly, but there is a ton of options out there to glamour on.

So, it's something to look at on both sides. Those prisms can be very expensive compared to what you know they cost. The only real work around here is asking a FC member, leveling up a craft for yourself or buying. Three options, one of them should give you what you need.

[ElHeggunte]

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Your complaint is entirely subjective though and there's nothing SE can do about it. They either have to ask you personally what you like or just design something and hope they get lucky. Even if they started to churn out gear that you like, there's always going to be someone else who doesn't like it. What should SE do about them? Whenever they have different designs based on gender people complain about the differences (see: DRG and NIN AF. Look up the infamous "DRG belly window" thread). If they pick a single appearance for both genders, then we have players like yourself who come and complain that they think the gear is too masculine or too feminine (people complain about how effeminate caster gear is all the time). Even if SE were to always release multiple versions of each set that everyone can wear you'll still have people who just plain don't like how the gear looks so they'll complain anyway. It's difficult to please everybody. It's down right impossible when the subject is aesthetic design. SE can't win for trying.

People are also giving you a hard time, not necessarily because of your dislike for the gear's appearance, but because of your inflammatory wording in the OP and your refusal to take advantage of the tools that SE has already given you for just such an occasion. If you don't like the way something looks, you can simply glamour it to something else. If you think glamour prisms cost too much on the Market Board, you can easily and cheaply level your crafters to level ~50 and just make your own prisms. Or you can even gather the materials (they're all cheap, low level items) and ask someone to make them for you. If you refuse to do any of that I guess you're just SOL since SE has no real reason or obligation to give you more options in addition to what we already have.

[Aura_Shurifon]

Last year, there was a big fuss on the forum because there wasn't enough skirt / long robe for male / tank... and know we are on the other side... There's always people who complain because they don't see the big picture.

And I think there's already a lot of Armor...
Here a little list of set with "armor" look (some heavy, some lighter) :
- High Mythrite Cuirass of Fending
- PLD, DRK Eso gear (WAR is more Beasty looking)
- Gordian Plate Mail of Fending
- Asuran/Yash Hara-ate of Fending (samurai ?)
- Valerian Terror Knight's Plate Mail (ok, there's a long skirt)
- Adamantite Armor of Fending
- Adamantite Lorica of Fending (Soldiery reskin)
- Titanium Cuirass of Fending (ilvl 80 reskin : i really like this one)
- Titanium Mail of Fending (Wootz DRG reskin)
- Mythrite Hauberk of Fending (ilvl 100 reskin)

You have choice...

[Whiteroom]

I'm not understanding all this hate to the OP. He never said take out the new gear, he only said to give more options to those who prefer armor looks. I think this is a completely fair request. I like the cool new clothes but some more armor sets like the tank wootz gear (replicated from ffxi) would be a very welcome addition to the game

Nobody is saying there can't be more. The simple fact is most of the sets up until recently have been the tin can sets he likes. They branch out a little and its terrible! To be fair, they do have a budget they have to work within, and given that they have a glamour system, I would rather they not blow it ensuring everyone can have the exact set they want with each new tier. As others have said, he gets hate because he refuses to accept glamouring, which even at his claim of 50K per, is not that hard for a set, even though he could get someone to make them, or make them himself.

An example of the tin can sets, off the top of my head, so incomplete. (tank only examples, since that is what the OP was on about):

Iron/Steel/Mythril/Cobalt/Sentinels/Milita Curiass
Heavy Steel/High Mythril sets
Brayflox set
Scale mail sets
Haubergeons
Dark Divinity/Herklaedi
Allagan/Replica
Heavy High allagan/Replica
Flames/Serpent Elite
Heavy Darksteel
Heavy Darklight
Valour
Fighter/Warriors
Protectors
Wolfram
Phlegethons
Curaiss of the divine war
Varlets
Ironworks
Mythrite Hauberk
Noct
Demon
Wootz
Titanium
Dusk vigil set
Halonic
Adamantite
Valerian
Behemoth King
Yasha
Gordian
Ravagers
Creed
Chaos
High Mythrite
I would also include the Midan


Sets with heels for tanks:
Hellfire
Maybe VA, I don't think I have those.


But mainly the hate he gets is the foolishness and selfishness of the "I'm too cheap for prisms, so SE should dedicate resources to designing armor I personally like for each tier."

Last year, there was a big fuss on the forum because there ...

You have choice...

Looks like we had the same thought.

[Shikiseki]

You're complaining about a little chest window and call it flamboyant? (did you see the pants? they have a pubic hair window and a testicle crack winow behind too, it's hilarious)

Yeah right, maybe you should take a look at Ranged/Caster/Healer gear - you'll be begging for that little boob window, just saying.

[jazo]

OP you need to ask for "MORE" options, feminine of manly for BOTH genders, and NOT asking for one think to not exist for other to do, valid point if you dont like the flamboyant gear on males, there manly gear for females too (im looking at the pecs armor from CT2), and its OK to exist and as much as you want to differentiate armor from male and females of the same set, there are also people that want it to be more alike (bellybutton dragoon AF might sound familiar)

BOTH OPINIONS ARE OK, if you like one stuff or another, just don't state your opinion dismissing the other. WE ALL CAN HAVE ARMOR SETS OF OUR LIKING!!!


That said... I want more female chest armor that bounces =)

[Valkyrie-Veil]

That said... I want more female chest armor that bounces =)

More bouncing! MORE!

[Roegadyn_Bear]

In their defense, there is nothing more terrifying than a Roe in a pair of tighty whities swinging an axe in a pair of stiletto shoes. That's a warrior of light you just don't want to screw with!

I beg to differ!

I imagine there would be plenty of screwing under the right circumstances.