Latent Effects and Hidden Values

[Tsukino]

DO NOT WANT !!

Why is it that FF11 fans have to have everything hidden and hard to understand, seriously ?

Why can't things be plan to see in the text and easy to understand.

It really comes down to magnitude in this case.

OP is asking for a small number of items to have some secret effects for people to uncover. That kind of stuff can be fun for people to discover and share with each other. Not showing the effects on any food item at all, on the other hand, pretty much every FFXI player hated.

[Andrien]

I'm not revealing my info. Get to testing on your own, you may find the same handy info.

If I found the info on my own I'd give it up freely, but since I didn't do the work it'd be unfair to the people that did, as they told me not to.

This is why it is a bad thing.

latent effects is all right in my book as long as it deals with HP/MP, but secret/hidden effects is something I wont concur with.

[Dragonlord]

I find it amusing that people believe in this moon-phase bs. Either show us the facts, or gtfo. I am a crafter, and i have done alot of it. I dont see any difference in any moon-phase at all. If SE releases the info, or validates it then i will believe it. Cmon you guys get a grip, there is no truth to this theory crafting bs. He isnt saying there is or isnt, because like he said he wants u to have faith. Like most say, fraps or it didnt happen. Give me some information that i can validate, or test myself then maybe, just maybe i will believe the nonsense. I am sorry to be negative, but this is getting old.

[Mortikhan]

Also probably because one of the moons will likely crash into us soon...so that won't really help :P

Hmmm that might disturb my crafting.

@topic sorta: My favorite were the crafting rumors of FFXI. I gave up on crafting in 11 for the sole reason that I felt like the planets must all be equidistant and properly aligned and I need to learn to do backflips through a hoop of fire before I could get a level 1 synth done. Someone tried to break down crafting to me...I stopped him mid way through and told him I just don't have that much time on my hands for one synth.

As far as hidden effects to weapons and equipment? No thanks. The fastest way to get two geeks to fight is to make them guess. They both will claim to know more than the other and then it's on.

[Moiren]

No to hidden effects (like Valiant Knife in FFXI).

Tho, would be nice to have some items with Latent effects (like Hercules Ring, in FFXI, for example).
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Hercules'_Ring

[Anon]

Well I'll share some secrets about the mind stat; before patch 1.19 mnd increased your mp regeneration rate while out of combat and 100% certain it increased the mp you gain back while using tranquility and exaltation. I haven't tested either after patch 1.19 to see if they're still true. After patch 1.19 a friend of mine (Towel Ragu; in case he wanted credit) discovered mind may increase cure critical hit rate through some nekkid testing with mind rings on and off. let me know how these work out for you.

[Shipp]

DO NOT WANT !!

Why is it that FF11 fans have to have everything hidden and hard to understand, seriously ?

Why can't things be plan to see in the text and easy to understand.

100% this. Not knowing how much of certain stats to stack until you reach the soft cap is not fun. Finding out you're put more and more points into a stat, only to realize 20 of those points were sitting there giving you less than 25% the output due to diminishing returns is not fun.

Figuring out those stats is only "fun" for people who feel like playing with a spreadsheet. Players who actually just want to play the game do not find it "fun" to have hidden stats that only activate when you're at 10% HP with poison debuff facing the East during a full moon in a double blizzard during Firesday with Garuda summoned and 15 out of 18 people in the alliance subbing /war.

Pro-hidden stat people will say that is a ridiculous exaggeration. I say hidden stats directly affecting your character's performance is a ridiculous concept in an MMO.