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    Xenon_S's Avatar
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    Xenon Shinkiro
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    NIN - Critique my rotation A5S SSS attempt

    Posted on reddit and immediately sunk, so i might as well as try here

    In short, i210 NIN couldn't get past SSS dummy for A5S and is looking for help

    video (dont mind the music)


    Using i210 Eso weapon (yes i didn't clear a4s nor get the relic) and the 200 VA Chest (eso chest is worse) and proto midas boot with accuracy melded (seph ex requires around 620 accuracy)
    I tried my best to optimize my rotation, here are some details

    - Using the Shasta opener, suiton on pull, to avoid 3 step ninjutsus in between gcds

    - The ninjutsu at 1:00 was delayed by a few seconds to line up with the next trick attack, armour crush was used in place of aeolian edge for the same purpose despite ample time on huton

    - Within that trick attack window I fit in an aeolian edge and mutilate

    - At 1:30, blood for blood was delayed so it will catch a burst phase a few seconds later

    - At 1:48, all dots refreshed within blood for blood, as well as raiton, dwad, mug, and duality aeolian edge

    - Slight mistake at 2:08 where internal release was not registered despite pressing it, leading to a gcd clipping in the next gcd where i did ir + suiton

    - Next trick attack at 2:17, includes kassatsu raiton and both dots, buffed by internal release

    Any constructive feed back will be appreciated, it is kind of frustrating to see that 1% and knowing for sure in raids i will have either a war for storm's eye, bard for foe req which helps ninjutsu damage, and drg for litany. And if the parse lasted for longer I can have my next burst phase (the 90s off gcds) to improve my numbers, oh well...
    Side note: I actually managed to get past that 1% once, but did not catch it on video...

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    Last edited by Xenon_S; 02-27-2016 at 11:47 AM.

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    Jim Berry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenon_S View Post
    Posted on reddit and immediately sunk, so i might as well as try here

    In short, i210 NIN couldn't get past SSS dummy for A5S and is looking for help

    video (dont mind the music)

    Using i210 Eso weapon (yes i didn't clear a4s nor get the relic) and the 200 VA Chest (eso chest is worse) and proto midas boot with accuracy melded (seph ex requires around 620 accuracy)
    I tried my best to optimize my rotation, here are some details
    I'll be totally honest with you:

    I never cared about BiS. I only cared about my iLv. Reason is, higher iLv gives me more DEX. There are MANY people who argue with me that I'm doing it wrong, but I generally don't respond because I don't care what they think.

    That said, I didn't beat the SSS, but I was VERY close. I probably could have sneezed and won (over-exaggerating), but here is my NIN at iLv210, like you.

    My main stats are:

    Dexterity (Attack Power): 1071
    Accuracy: 656
    Critical Hit Rate: 787
    Determination: 421
    Skill Speed: 626

    You're killing me on the crit, but I rely on my crit AND attack power for my damage. I don't hold CDs, either, with the exception of using Duality while Internal Release is active, and I don't have a rotation. I start my fights randomly, so I never need a 20 second pull macro. While I also normally don't target-lock, I do it on these Dummies to guarantee all my auto-attacks hit as well.

    *UPDATE*
    My stats have changed as my NIN is now iLv212:

    Dexterity (Attack Power): 1080
    Accuracy: 656
    Critical Hit Rate: 845
    Determination: 433
    Skill Speed: 582

    I cleared the Dummy with about 30-ish seconds to spare with a lot of mess ups of my combos and my dots would sometimes skip and just disappear.
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    Last edited by Jim_Berry; 02-28-2016 at 01:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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    Player Kaze3434's Avatar
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    Rumina Asou
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    /im trying to find why i have 30+ more dex then you. even bringing my gear to match you doesnt change that gap.
    ok, i think i might have been in a party while looking at stats.
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    Last edited by Kaze3434; 02-28-2016 at 05:30 AM.

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    Campi's Avatar
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    Campi Nitsu
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    I beat the A5s dummy with iLvl 207, but it was very close..
    I used a pot in my opener, but i don't use bufffood

    your gear should be good enough to beat the dummy
    and you had little mistakes during and at the end of the battle

    i use the CDs when they are ready, because the fight is only 3mins long
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    Darklune Voltuniel
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    I tried this out after seeing your post last night. I beat it with 2 sec. to spare *phwew*. Honestly, I think you were on-pace to win, but the last 6% or so, you let your DOTs drop and just spammed Aeoleans. I think that might have made the difference.

    GLHF, you'll get it!
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    Last edited by Darklune; 03-04-2016 at 04:17 AM.

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    Aiot O'lein
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    In your opener you did
    ... > SE (TA) > SF (Raiton) > MU (DwaD) > SE (Mug) > GS (Dual) > AE > ...
    Then delayed the mudras for them to aling to TA refresh, right?

    May not be much, but if you switch it to
    ... > SE (TA) > SF (DwaD) > MU (Mug) > SE (Raiton) > GS (Dual) > AE > ...
    You may not need to delay your mudras anymore for the 2nd TA. (tho, basically is the same)

    Also, Darklune is right, MU is one thing, but SF only needs 9 seconds to be worth it, so try not to drop it.
    The music was pleasing to hear.
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    Jim Berry
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    *UPDATE 2*
    My stats have changed as my NIN is now iLv216:

    Dexterity (Attack Power): 1104
    Accuracy: 756
    Critical Hit Rate: 865
    Determination: 427
    Skill Speed: 631

    Not by a lot, but I was in the 40 second range on the clear. Still not having 900+ crit like you, but my attack power increased, giving me more damage (although that crit would be nice). Going back to what I said earlier, I prefer iLv because I'm usually gaining more attack power (Dexterity), but that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    ...but I was in the 40 second range on the clear...
    Wait, you beat A5S SSS with about 40 seconds to spare?? Video please teach us, master Ginsu!
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    Sigmakan Kaph
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darklune View Post
    Wait, you beat A5S SSS with about 40 seconds to spare?? Video please teach us, master Ginsu!
    Either he didnt realize that he was doing the A5 normal dummy OR hes making up numbers. Beating the A5S nin dummy with 40 secs left is the equivalent of 1843 dps.
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    Palamula Anamaleth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigmakan View Post
    Either he didnt realize that he was doing the A5 normal dummy OR hes making up numbers. Beating the A5S nin dummy with 40 secs left is the equivalent of 1843 dps.
    that was my guess, probably didnt realise shes doing A5N not A5S, even Elysium would be hard pressed to beat A5S Dummy with 40 seconds to spare.
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