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  1. #51
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    The_NPC's Avatar
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    Ritza Solair
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    Behemoth
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    Machinist Lv 79
    its been a long while (& I mean long while) since I have ever seen a person kicked for watching a cutsene, any time I have & it somehow passes "welp GL without u'r Tank cause u were a duche" -leaves dungeon (only have had to do this twice as Tank so far, 2 more as WHM) as for overpullers I just use everything Def CD wise, not at once cause useless with Hallowed on PLD, if I still die & they try blaming me they get the explaination of def cd were used "all of them" & I dodged all dodgable crap, still complaining welp "bye asshats". Seriously if they have the gaul to pull extra/more than u can handle even with uber Def buff mode & blame u then they ant worth u'r time anymore, well provided they wont compromise.

    Granted as much as it sound dumb but just get "allies/friends" to join u if they can... thay way at lest u can lower the chance of douchebagery (still happens then u all leave & they now have to wait longer than that simple cutsence was to replace all of u)
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  2. #52
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcher24 View Post
    As a level 50 player, I cannot tank so many and quite honestly, I don't have to do anything in 8 player trials or story dungeons, because the level 60 tank is pulling everything together and it dies within 2 seconds.
    No. You can't tank so many because you refuse to actually do your job as a tank, and keep up on your gear, because you "don't want to buy it". You picked the one job who has to prioritize gear over everything else to do their role properly, and decided that you didn't want to actually use the tools available to you to actually do your job, so the DPS are doing your job for you instead. I have no sympathy for tanks who won't put in the extra effort required to do their jobs, because you make the rest of us look bad. Either suck it up, and do your job, or roll something else.
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  3. #53
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    The_Shang's Avatar
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    Shan Aurelius
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    tbh OP, it's incredibly easy to gear up for the content you are playing now *looks at Ironworks gear*. What you are doing now is incredibly stupid and stubborn, crudely put.

    That said, I have no issues with undergeared tanks if they put in some sort of effort (I run into those types often), as long as you know the priority targets.

    Edit:
    Actually, I ran into this Dark Knight the other day in Cutter's Cry when I was helping my gf leveling her White Mage (I was there for light for my Artemis Bow). Other DPS was a Bard as well. Somewhat properly geared (weapon was a bit weak for the dungeon, at lvl34 I think), but otherwise seemed fine. First pulls, everything was fine (those ants die fast anyway). Then we run into the first Bomb-type enemies. This is where I noticed something: the DRK only used Unleash once on a group, picked a target, then started to use the enmity combo *only on that target* (which was not one of the Bombs)! I attack the Bomb, along with the other Bard (he was a chill guy, even asked me for some advice since he noticed I was a lvl60). I pull aggro. Tank starts bitching like I killed a puppy or something. We finished the run, but needless to say that tank pissed me off.

    tldr; Tank didn't do his job properly and was slightly undergeared.

    Don't turn into one of those tanks, we've already got enough of them as it is.
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  4. #54
    Player
    Sousoulsu's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Kuus Hime
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Shield Lob
    Circle of Scorn if a heal/buff landed the instant you pulled
    Flash
    Flash
    Flash
    Combo.

    Sorry but I just haven't had the problem you're having.
    Maybe buy a crafted weapon at your level?
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  5. #55
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    KogaDrake's Avatar
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    Character
    Koga Dragontaker
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Tip to new tanks, specially when dealing with over zealous DPS... The easiest way to deal with this is when the last mob is at about 20% HP, hit a stun and run to the next pack, you can easily use your GCD pull and get then next GCD AOE threat skill off before the DPS catch up because of the few seconds jump on them that you have from them dealing with the last 20%. Since its stunned, it will not be moving with you (and wont mess with melee's ability to keep DPSing) giving you that small time window to get the 2nd GCD off.

    The only thing you need to learn to deal with in these situations is regen ticks if the healer was using it, and if you use your ranged attack and stop moving, normally the GCD time is about the time they take to run back to you (after the healer) and your flash (or OP or unleashed depending on tank class) will hit them as they come by and instant agro for you.

    very little things like these really help you deal with DPS that dont give any time and healers who regen or cast adlo on you as your pulling.
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  6. #56
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    Brinzy's Avatar
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    Thabo Marandu
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcher24 View Post
    I pull groups as they are chained. But I try to pull as little as I can. The game fortunately shows you which mobs are linked.
    I also put numbers on them. Most of the time 3 or 4 dies before 1.
    I found the problem.

    You're running up and marking every single enemy in a pack, every single pack, and then getting upset when people get agitated. There is no reason to do this. At absolute most, put a 1 on something, because 2, 3, and 4 will be determined by missing health.
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  7. #57
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    Seku's Avatar
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    Seku Halvone
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcher24 View Post
    But I try to pull as little as I can.
    Now that you got your gear caught up a bit. You need to pull more. Doing as little as you can (1 pack at a time), you're basically not living up to your potential and really the group could just have 3 dps with a half way decent healer. Learn to time flash, over power, or unleash, as the mobs are running -towards- you or the group. Use it quite a few times as this is how you keep hate on multiple monsters. Don't waste time marking out mobs, the only time this is a good ideas is if there is a particular mob in the group that is going to spam AoE along with 1-2 others (causes the healer hell), or has a huge AoE that you can't direct (Large circles such as the toads) that you want the dps to focus down while getting to end point of your pull.
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  8. #58
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    Character
    King Canadane
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Shang View Post
    Then we run into the first Bomb-type enemies. This is where I noticed something: the DRK only used Unleash once on a group, picked a target, then started to use the enmity combo *only on that target* (which was not one of the Bombs)! I attack the Bomb, along with the other Bard (he was a chill guy, even asked me for some advice since he noticed I was a lvl60). I pull aggro. Tank starts bitching like I killed a puppy or something. We finished the run, but needless to say that tank pissed me off.

    tldr; Tank didn't do his job properly and was slightly undergeared.
    If i recall correctly, those particular bombs explode only at low health. In a sense, they're like bees with their Final Sting.
    Not attacking them first is fine and they pose little threat.
    While yeah he probably should have kept up on aoe enmity, you too should have attacked what he was focusing. Considering you specifically noticed him switch to single target attacks, you knew what was coming.
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  9. #59
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    The_Shang's Avatar
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    Shan Aurelius
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    It doesn't matter for those bombs, I've seen them go off at full health.
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  10. #60
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    Pells's Avatar
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    Character
    P'lha Tahl
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    It's part of the speed running meta. You don't waste time attacking something that will die anyway. The bombs will blow at low health. They will also blow a set time after being engaged. So, it's fastest to ignore them.

    And just like your typical DF speed runner, he got pissy when random people failed to read his mind, because explaining things TAKES TOO LONG.
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    Oooh, shiney...

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