All Tanks are equal.

[Ironos]

Sorry but if i remember correctly one patch note they say more than 2 melees dps Or casters afect your LB

I believe they did that in 3.1 (?) and then quickly reverted it. In 3.2 they made so that if you have 2+ of the same job and/or you break the 2/2/4 composition. Likely to try and discourage solo tank/heal comps and bringing an extra DPS.

Side note: 3.2 also made it so doubles in DF solo content no longer slow LB gauge.

Edit: Exact wording:

Dungeons and trials accessible solo via the Duty Finder:

• The Limit Break Gauge will no longer fill more slowly when multiple members of the same class/job are in the party.

Dungeons and trials requiring a full party to register via the Duty Finder:
The Limit Break Gauge will fill more slowly under the following conditions:

• Three or more party members are playing as tanks.
• Five or more party members are playing as DPS.
• Three or more party members are playing as healers.
• Two or more party members are playing the same class or job.

[Kathyz]

I believe they did that in 3.1 (?) and then quickly reverted it. In 3.2 they made so that if you have 2+ of the same job and/or you break the 2/2/4 composition. Likely to try and discourage solo tank/heal comps and bringing an extra DPS.

Side note: 3.2 also made it so doubles in DF solo content no longer slow LB gauge.


Dungeons and trials requiring a full party to register via the Duty Finder:
The Limit Break Gauge will fill more slowly under the following conditions:

• Three or more party members are playing as tanks.
• Five or more party members are playing as DPS.
• Three or more party members are playing as healers.
• Two or more party members are playing the same class or job.

Ooo thanks for the info i dint get that!! And sorry for troubles :3

[RocheKat]

Ok so a bit off topic but at least two people mentioned liking monk because its mostly rear... of monks 6 primary attacks 3 are rear and 3 are flank... Two of the short duration buffs are from flank attacks... What are you people talking about?

I also find it fun that the majority of content for the majority of people this stuff doesn't matter. The differences between dps, healers, and tanks is meh most of the time. Unless for some odd reason you care about server/world first clears... and if you care about that stuff you have multiple jobs leveled and geared anyway. That is also ignoring skill level. A great PLD will be better than a bad DRK or WAR on every measure.

[Falar]

Paladin is 15% now instead of 20%.

This is why Dark and Paladin are near the same DPS when they are going full damage.

What are the top parses for both?

I have a hard time seeing PLD getting close to DRK MT damage with that 5% increase. DRK has stronger DOTs, permanent 15% damage boost vs 30s up, 60s down 30% increase, more oGCD abilities, and the average potency of alternating DASE and DE combos is still higher than straight RA combos.

If PLD damage ever gets even close to DRK damage, that is the day DRK becomes a completely useless tank for anything but clearing huge amounts of trash.

[elvenchakra]

What are the top parses for both?

I have a hard time seeing PLD getting close to DRK MT damage with that 5% increase. DRK has stronger DOTs, permanent 15% damage boost vs 30s up, 60s down 30% increase, more oGCD abilities, and the average potency of alternating DASE and DE combos is still higher than straight RA combos.

If PLD damage ever gets even close to DRK damage, that is the day DRK becomes a completely useless tank for anything but clearing huge amounts of trash.

It's not just that, it's also the buff to the enmity multiplier of Savage Blade and Shield Oath, allowing for less need to use Rage of Halone to hold hate, plus the HUGE buff to goring blade (both the initial hit and the dot potency were buffed). Don't forget that that 5% lower penalty on Shield Oath is actually a 6.25% increase in damage.