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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Please consider removing raid level accuracy requirements from dungeons.

    Reasons:

    Scholars require using Energy Drain for mana management. Missing an Energy Drain no longer provides mana as it did in ARR. The same goes with using Bane. Miasma missing is wasted mana for a Bane.

    Dungeon Mechanics. The two new dungeons have mechanics where two people are randomly incapacitated and the remaining two are required to do damage to free them. Healers are placed at an distinct disadvantage compared to other classes. Tanks get accuracy from tank stance.

    Relative fun. Players generally consider dungeons lesser content to raids. Players who raid expect a certain challenge that is different from casual content. Placing raid mechanics on casual content isn't fun.

    Money/Time disadvantage. Tanks and DPS don't have to worry about accuracy requirement because their gear is swimming in it. If healers want to be able to do damage during dungeons consistently they have an extra expense tanks and DPS don't.

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    Last edited by Deceptus; 03-05-2016 at 05:55 AM.

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    Darkmoon Vael
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    Its not raid level accuracy thats needed, nor is it a raid mechanic that we are seeing in dungeons. Nor is it the case that healers missing in dps will wipe the party (a 17% miss chance is not going to wipe the party in the last boss of anti-tower).

    However, gear needs token accuracy for healers.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Um, Energy Drain never gave mana for a miss?

    Anyway, just meld accuracy now and you'll be fine.
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    Dante Venarra
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    The required accuracy for dungeon is nowhere near raid level.
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    Kabz Il
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    Spriggan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Just wanted to point out that Tanks and DPS aren't swimming in accuracy, they often have to plan their gear out and wear sub-optimal (iLvl wise) gear just to make checks. It's not a free pass for any of the roles, lets stop being so petty. ;D
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Tank gear is not swimming in ACC. Warrior sort of pre-3.2 if you didn't itemize right, or didn't get any Gordias Savage gear.

    Alas you have those materia slots to do something with, and dungeons are not raid level ACC.
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Um, Energy Drain never gave mana for a miss?

    Anyway, just meld accuracy now and you'll be fine.
    Energy Drain never missed before 3.0 due to acc cap being low in non-raid content, so it's a moot point.
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    Sida Bajihri
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Think it's supposed to go into a direction where healer is not supposed to be a dps who happens to be able to heal, much like the recent tank changes attempt to make tanks tanking. The couple incapacitating mechanics you mention don't fail due healer accuracy checks.
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

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    Rhiki Sylva
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    A fully melded set with tier 4 accuracy gives you +162 accuarcy, so you get to 516 accuracy (around A2S acc cap).
    A fully melded set with tier 5 accuracy gives you +216 accuracy, 570 accuracy (around A6S acc cap, from what i know).

    Still wish we could get some accuracy on gear so we at least don't miss on snoozefest dungeons without melds. Additionally, any materia bonus you might have will get ignored in any level/ilvl synced content.
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  10. #10
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    Energy Drain never missed before 3.0 due to acc cap being low in non-raid content, so it's a moot point.
    Dungeons sure, but the statement was you got mp back when you missed, which is untrue...

    I missed energy drains in final coil like it was going out of style so I'd know. XD
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