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  1. #121
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    Kuwagami's Avatar
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    There's a large difference between a slight difference in DPS, which people in this thread have openly said they do not care about and someone in full i210 doing 500 DPS. Before you say I'm exaggerating, no, I just witnessed someone in full i210 doing 500 DPS. You have to actively try to do that poorly.
    doing 1-2-3 repeat as any melee job gives you more than 500 dps (tanks excluded because tanking stance, though some i210 tanks manage to go under 250 dps....). Even Ice mages can go above 700 dps.

    Unless it's a "ruin only" smn, I'm not sure how you can achieve such a low dps without purposely spending full GCDs doing nothing. If anything, I'm impressed by the willpower of these players. It must be harder to be that bad than to perform on a good level on a regular basis.
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  2. #122
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    Blacksail's Avatar
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    Elaine Blacksail
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    Adamantoise
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    Dragoon Lv 61
    I really thought the training grounds was going to be a parser of some sort...

    Why doesnt it tell you your damage at the end? have a "your best score" or "server best score" so you have something to compare to or how you need to improve? I hope they do some adjustments..
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  3. #123
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    Millen1's Avatar
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    Character
    Xiao Ming
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    Brynhildr
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Being on ps4 I have wanted to know where I am at with dps. Sucks having to find someone with a parser all the time. The New SSS gives enough that you can get a good idea of your dps. http://www.2digitalgames.de Is what I use on my iPhone. Select the job you are on, the trial and then the % not finished or time remaining and you get a parse. Simple, helpful and while it doesn't give you the same info a parser on PC would, it isn't bad and can help you work on your dps or at least know where it is.
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  4. 03-06-2016 06:19 PM

  5. #124
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    RocheKat's Avatar
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    Klarity Sincerity
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    Lamia
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    Conjurer Lv 46
    "Please add in another way to make people elitist."


    Yeah we don't need that... a damage meter of any kind promotes bad behavior.
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  6. #125
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    Priya's Avatar
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    Priya Eridian
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    Leviathan
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RocheKat View Post
    "Please add in another way to make people elitist."


    Yeah we don't need that... a damage meter of any kind promotes bad behavior.
    Nope, that's not how it works. It's kind of like the phrase "guns don't kill people, people kill people" (sorry if this is in poor taste, I'm just using it to illustrate that an object only does what the operator wills).

    Damage meters are like computers in that they can't do anything they're not told to do; they can't promote anything but data. However, an already terrible human CAN use them for negativity... which I think is closer to what you're getting at. It doesn't really change anything that's already been stated in this thread, though.



    EDIT to clarify: I'm for damage meters because they're a tool. Whether they are wielded by good or evil, well... that's a risk taken with any tool ever made.
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    Last edited by Priya; 03-07-2016 at 12:36 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    i'd kinda like to give priya hugs with my mouth.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Q20: Will we ever be able to send tells from within an instanced area?

    A20: While the feature can be implemented, it’s currently masked. It’s currently masked because we would like to prevent players from harassing each other just because they know they would never party together in the future. We will continue to monitor the situation carefully as we move forward.

  7. #126
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    Andrea's Avatar
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    Princess Andrea
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RocheKat View Post
    "Please add in another way to make people elitist."


    Yeah we don't need that... a damage meter of any kind promotes bad behavior.
    A chat box promotes bad behaviour, we need to remove this from the game ASAP. Without the chat box there will be no way people can be meanies.
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  8. #127
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    Rawrz's Avatar
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RocheKat View Post
    "Please add in another way to make people elitist."


    Yeah we don't need that... a damage meter of any kind promotes bad behavior.
    Without pcs us ps4 players wouldn't even know what a parser was or its uses. We should remove all pc support from the game or add in a background checker to disable anything from screen recorders to parsers. >:[ [Not really serious about that]
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  9. #128
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    WeekendSoja's Avatar
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    Luku Asura
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    So much support in this thread with almost an equal amount of opposition. Poses two questions of why so opposed, as Priya said, "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" kind of rings true and with current policies instated for delinquent use of parses already being harsh, and if they implement a parser I believe those policies wouldn't change...so people would still need to hold hands just now there's no hiding your inadequecies...why oppose a tool that should make people better with these limitations? (and if someone brings up improper use of a parser in anything other than current primal and raid content...just wow)

    If SE made a server for competitive orientation, with this straight split in this thread about this, I wonder how many people would transition over.

    I would feel bad for the "let's have fun" group because not everyone in that group has fun maxing their capabilities.
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  10. #129
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    RadiantRay's Avatar
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    Radiant Ray
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 60
    I just tried the new Stone, Sky, Sea thing and it's absolutely horrible and doesn't even compare. It's just a standalone dummy that doesn't even fight back. Also it absolutely sucks for healers, it just makes us dps the entire way. No way I'm going to be dishing out that much dps in A5S as a whm (idk maybe I will, I haven't done savage yet). I've played games that had built in dps/hps meters before. The casual community of those games don't even recognize it exists for the most part, I mean is the ff14 community actually scared of a dps meter? Really guys? xD
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  11. #130
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    Andrea's Avatar
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    Princess Andrea
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by WeekendSoja View Post
    I would feel bad for the "let's have fun" group because not everyone in that group has fun maxing their capabilities.
    The people that most in here have a problem with are those that are clearly not even attempting to pull their weight. If you're running the newest expert dungeons and still do not know what you're meant to do as your class then why even run it.

    You're just forcing others to carry you instead of you learning how to contribute yourself.

    I do not feel sorry for those people.
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