add an in game parser please!!!

[vigioX-Sun]

Maybe the only reason is not implement is because of how toxic the community is,dev know that... an ppl will abuse of it.
thats the only true.

[KaijinRhada]

With or without it, people that are abusive will continue to be belligerent. Data in and of itself is good, and having no feedback to work with is bad when there are multiples of a role, whose job essentially boils down to make this mob's HP go to zero, and individual contribution isn't always so transparent. Sure, a healer also deals with numbers, but the effect of their numbers being low/mistimed equals dead members, which is very noticeable. If you aren't taking hits to the face, or tossing numbers at party members, your job is to make things dead and you best be doing it. Tanks and healers are already easy to evaluate and find mistakes, DPS shouldn't get a free pass or a carry.

In such a situation where no one knows what their DPS is, and a DPS check failed even with mechanics done properly, who are you going to blame? At best it could be one of two, or it's a combination of four players. Would you blame all of the DPS, even though two are pulling their weight and it's one or two players pulling ARR numbers in level 60 content? What if there was an excellent BRD or MCH, but the others aren't pulling their weight, you want to guess who is more likely to receive blame for their failure? In the case of not knowing, blame is blanketed on multiple players, even those that don't deserve it.

It's now a climate of babying a rather important (though unsung) role, where even expecting people to play at bare minimum is too much to ask, and as a great example to illustrate it, A8 a good reminder of that.

On the note of bringing up DPS meters and WoW, in the near decade I've played it, the amount of bullying that I have witnessed that happens over DPS is negligible. Pre-LFD and LFR was best since every one on the server would know if you pulled your weight in runs.

[WeekendSoja]

Toxic people are just toxic. People run third party parsers whether you know or you don't, ever wonder why that tank left the group after the first boss? 8/10 was because he wasn't pleased with dps.

In-game parsers would segregate groups, may force people to improve (God-forbid it) and maybe more people would be able to clear dos checks (btw, dps checks were introduced with pandemonium warden cause people who like to take hours to finish a fight reported that they took 18 hours to just give up...bad press from players who need a sense of limitation...I mean who the hell is going to keep trying for 18 hours...lol those PPP items weren't even hard to get)

[Priya]

Toxic people are just toxic. People run third party parsers whether you know or you don't, ever wonder why that tank left the group after the first boss? 8/10 was because he wasn't pleased with dps.

While performing mechanics properly is part of it, this is also why you see "3 tries and reform" PF groups. It's less obvious (and less risky if you're afraid of a report) to just break up the group and re-invite the good players instead of kicking the one guy who is only pulling 400 DPS. It effectively accomplishes the same thing.

The people who do not or cannot parse may never know they're not doing well because no one wants to tell them in case the response they get is "OMG YOU ARE HARASSING ME WITH NUMBERS! REPORTED!"

The ban-happy nature of the OF is probably enough to give many people pause on what they say in game.

[WeekendSoja]

The numbers thing and banning, I wish SE just treated this like most US regulated facilities and just underwrite it with, "we will give you a parser, but if you say anything that could be meant to be negative remarks (snarky criticism included) you may incur a 1-3 day ban."

[SnugglesD]

I'd settle for an official parser being a premade party option. I think it'd be a perfect compromise. People that don't participate in higher levels of play don't have to worry about being told they're not good enough and the people that want/need it can use it on the content that benefits from it.

[RickXRolled]

I'd settle for an official parser being a premade party option. I think it'd be a perfect compromise. People that don't participate in higher levels of play don't have to worry about being told they're not good enough and the people that want/need it can use it on the content that benefits from it.

People would still find a way to whine and complain, as they always do.

New posts on forums:
"OMG I cannot sneak into partyfinder groups anymore!"
"OMG I got kicked because people could see my pathetic dps!"
"OMG Elitists excluding casuals!"

[Amariel34]

I think I had someone parsing an alt of mine in a dungeon. He told me that positioning on my monk would help my dps. I told him I knew that, but that I honestly didn't have the coordination to constantly move my character for the attacks. He was cool about it and said he understood. Since I don't plan on doing any instances outside of the MSQ ones, and maybe ones with hunting log targets, I don't think it will matter all that much. Course not long after that dungeon I found out I should have been putting points in STR and not DXT. ^_^' So I think putting all those points in the right stat probably helped.

[Stupiduglytaru]

I'd just like to thank all parser users that also us fflogs, as a ps4 user this really helps. It was nice to see i was top dps in my latest va run, considering I am what you would define as a casual on the pve scene.

(Only do VA once a week, and Midas NM runs)

Whilst I know there is improvement needed, I at least know that when I handle mechanics I still have a fairly decent understanding of my rotation.

[SnugglesD]

People would still find a way to whine and complain, as they always do.

New posts on forums:
"OMG I cannot sneak into partyfinder groups anymore!"
"OMG I got kicked because people could see my pathetic dps!"
"OMG Elitists excluding casuals!"

Touché. They should just make separate server/data center that's pro-parse/pro-competition and call it a day. All the RPers and minion collectors can stay on balmung and anyone that actually enjoys healthy competition and doesn't get PTSD flashbacks they haven't dealt with from being picked last for dodgeball in elementary school can go and actually have a good time without being demonized and called elitists.