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    Player
    Arrius's Avatar
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Riardon View Post
    They already said there won't be an in-game dps meter because people will use it to abuse others.
    That's no argument - Harassing people over the DPS that was shown by 3rd party parsers was always a punishable offense, which SE is swift to execute.

    If they will add their own parsers for everyone, nothing will change in their policy at all - When you talk shit about others regarding their DPS, they can file a ticket and the support will come and put you back in place.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    A self parser that can tell you your:

    Overheal, Accuracy, Own DPS, Group DPS total, Group DPS total required to beat fight (Maybe), personnal record the dungeon/trial (Maybe and Client side only.)

    ^ Thats what I'd want if we cant have a full blown parser.
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    Cesan Duff
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    This is off-topic.

    I can beat AS1 dummy with my bard, but the class is such a mess for me (might just be my hotbars but anyway.. ) that I can't even perform reasonably in dungeons. I fail to reaply dots, forget about procs, forget totally about the new skills, etc. As soon as I have sth other than my hotbars to focus on, I hust can't do it.

    ... but I can beat AS1 dummy, so I must be doing well even in dungeons, amirite ? >_>
    It just means that your gear is covering what you lack in your rotation.

    SSS is basically a rotation and gear check.
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    Xizzy Azenith
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    Zalera
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    This is off-topic.

    I can beat AS1 dummy with my bard, but the class is such
    Might I suggest that you just keep grinding on the dummy while you are focused on a good rotation over and over until it's natural muscle memory? I think what's wrong is you play against a dummy and if you can focus on just dPS you do fine but once you have to think about that and mechanics you prioritize mechanics.

    You need to grind that rotation until it becomes habit and then being bad is hard

    Fighting game competitive players will grin a scenario over and over until their muscle memory knows what to do the second it sees something.
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    Kylrin Arresard
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 90
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    The sum of all hunt arguments over early pullers: http://goo.gl/IFT9IE

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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Malzian View Post
    Exactly and guess what the same people will say the same thing they said in countless other ones on this topic.
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    Player Judah_Brandt's Avatar
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    Judah Brandt
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    Jenova
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Wait, so, like, why do you even need to to know your numbers. If anyone can give me a logical reason that isn't related to inflating their personal ego I'll sign the petition. If the SSS trial which has the DPS check in it exists, if you beat it then you are doing sufficient damage. If you fail it you are not. The exact number is irrelevant. Other's numbers are irrelevant.
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    Calypso Celeste
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Judah_Brandt View Post
    snip.
    Well, how's this for example, say the SSS dummy needs 900 DPS to pass and I try it once and clear with 950. Then I try it again and clear with 1000. I'd like to be able to compare my rotations and use the optimal one every time, y'know? Also, with an SSS dummy party cooldowns aren't taken into effect, what if my 1000 rotation actually does less in practice because the cooldowns I used didn't line up with trick attack and battle litany? This is all useful information that a full on parser is capable of providing. Some people want it for epeen that's true but what we have now is like testing a class full of students and not telling them their grades or what they got wrong, just that they passed or failed.
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    Last edited by Jamillion; 03-04-2016 at 11:45 PM. Reason: I can grammar more gooder

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    Kai Lee
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 70
    What is wrong with adding numbers to SSS? It's not like anyone can see you or your numbers?
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kai_Lee View Post
    What is wrong with adding numbers to SSS? It's not like anyone can see you or your numbers?
    You can already parse using SSS with excel or a nice website that I don't have the link handy on my phone, but how does that help me to see where/when I'm overhealing/missing %/AoE Dps/Mechanic&Handling upcoming invulnerability. Theory crafting is all you have by the end of it.

    edit:
    Link to how to self parse using SSS
    Stone, Sky, Sea DPS Calculator
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 03-04-2016 at 11:54 PM.

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