What is so bad about FFXI?

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What is this? I hope you're not implying that simply because it's old it's invalid.

And what steps "forward" did XIV make from XI? What has XIV done that has invalidated the features and gameplay XI had that has let it live for so long?

And why are they more valid? Because you like them more? Because they make the game easier in places you prefer?

There are few things that can be objectively defined as far as games go. Preference is not one of them.

It's not invalid because it's old. It's invalid because it's an entirely different game and therefore many of the principles cannot be converted over to a new game without it conflicting terribly with the pre-existing systems (which we are now seeing happening). Some can be brought over, sure, but many would destroy FFXIV as we know it (which Im sure you'd love, but I sure wouldn't).

I'd welcome better search function and so on, but there are a lot of things from FFXI which were awful and could have been improved upon. And SE did improve upon them when they made FFXIV. For example, in FFXI, crafting was inaccessible, practically. You really had to be committed and rich to be able to do it. In FFXIV they really tried to bring life to this aspect of gameplay, even giving it its own minigame. (Sure they dumbed it down after patch 1.19 and it's not even really gameplay anymore, it's just something you download a bot for, but there was a point where it actually was gameplay).

My point is, this is an improvement upon FFXI.

Another improvement upon FFXI is how I no longer just wait around for TP to build up. In FFXI, that's what they called a "combat system". Believe it or not.

In FFXI chocobos were on a timer and the developers hated fun. Everything was a punishment. (inb4 fatigue)

I realise FFXIV isn't perfect, but FFXI was far from it too. So that's why I would suggest leaving FFXI out of it completely, and just trying to argue for individual features on their own merits rather than make blanket assumptions about FFXI being perfect and therefore every single thing about the game needs to have a FFXIV equivalent, even if it ends up destroying FFXIV.

I could go on but you're a lost cause Gramul, tbh.

You shouldn't have bought a game you hated (FFXIV). You should have stuck with games like FFXI and Everquest. God knows there are lots of them to choose from.

I mean, I try and I try to save FFXIV but the Jennestias and the Gramuls of this world seem always to come in here and try to destroy FFXIV just so they can relive their FFXI glory days.