SE Please add jump and swiming

[Jynx]

by your analogy, if one group wants to play with a kind of ball and you don't, it effects you because it "takes away from you" what ever that means

No it means I wont be able to go to the playground if I don't use that kind of ball.

[Onidemon]

No it means I wont be able to go to the playground if I don't use that kind of ball.

That is because you ASSUME that jumping will be NEEDED to play the game or certain aspects but that's only you assuming. Do other mmos force you to use it? I think not.

[Jynx]

That is because you ASSUME that jumping will be NEEDED to play the game or certain aspects but that's only you assuming. Do other mmos force you to use it? I think not.

Whats the point of the jump feature if it has no use? many people who want jump want it for some strange tactical purposes.

[Onidemon]

Whats the point of the jump feature if it has no use? many people who want jump want it for some strange tactical purposes.

Seriously, go on youtube... google every MMO that uses jump followed by the words "gameplay" and then you will have all your answers.

[Shipp]

Whats the point of the jump feature if it has no use? many people who want jump want it for some strange tactical purposes.

Because some people want a freaking jump button. Jesus, it's like talking to a brick wall in here. Here's the course of events:

You: Why implement jump if it's pointless?
Us: It can have uses for boss mechanics.
You: But I don't want to have to jump, I want tank and spank fights that don't require movement.
Us: Even if jump wasn't used for boss mechanics, some people still like the ability to jump.
You: But it looks stupid and it affects me.
Us: It doesn't affect you because you don't have to do it.
You: But it will affect me because it will be forced on us in endgame mechanics.
Us: It doesn't have to be.
You: Why add it if it's pointless?


You are doing nothing but arguing in circles. It's been explained to you over and over why people want it. You, will never want it. We get it. You're stubborn and obstinate and think jump has nothing to offer in an MMO. We tell you how it can be used in boss fights and then you whine that you don't want to have to use jump in boss fights.

[Jynx]

You're stubborn and obstinate

I think the same shoe will fit another groups foot as well.

[Shipp]

I think the same shoe will fit another groups foot as well.

All you're doing is trolling at this point. It's been explained how jump can be beneficial and why people want it. You respond with being too lazy to use jump in a boss battle. Adding jump takes nothing away from you, whatsoever. It does add to the enjoyment of a lot of other people though.

[Jynx]

All you're doing is trolling at this point. It's been explained how jump can be beneficial and why people want it.

I explained why I dislike it and why I feel it's a bad idea. I'm not trolling I'm just stating my opinion it's not about being lazy it's about how I feel the game would work best.

I don't really care what the "Majority" thinks what they actually think is actually rather up in the air despite what your small following of jumpers think. Neither of us have any real idea of what the majority of players actually want.

I don't pretend to know what everyone wants or what is best for everyone, I just state what I think is fun and some people agree with me, some don't. I'm not saying your idea is stupid I just saying I'd prefer it not to be a mechanic. I'd rather have strategic positioning rather than strategic jumps. How about both? whatever I'd still prefer no jumping I think it looks silly to avoid a uber boss move by hopping over it.

All I can do is tell people what my opinion is and tell them why.

You tell me jumping can be added
-I say I'd rather not
You ask why
-I say because it has no real purpose
You tell me how it could have purpose
-I say why I dislike that purpose
You say it doesn't have to have a prupose
-I say if it's going to be added it should at least have a purpose, but I'd still prefer it not be added for asthetic values.

You accuse me of trolling~

Yay.

[irongripz]

Whats the point of the jump feature if it has no use? many people who want jump want it for some strange tactical purposes.

the point of it is options. people want options in the game they play. if you do not like one option then you can chose another. but not having option is just asinine. and to be honest its selfish to limit options just because you do not like it.

[Shipp]

No it means I wont be able to go to the playground if I don't use that kind of ball.

No, it means you simply don't play with that ball at the playground, and that analogy doesn't even work for MMOs. The ball analogy did, your branch veering off the beaten path didn't.