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  1. #51
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    Bisera Cecilina
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    "Class-exclusivity" is not the problem here.

    SE tried to have "no class-exclusivity" with v1 and all it got them people leveling A with xyz components from other jobs which actually landed practically the same job over and over again with the exception of the weapon being used in the main hand. This is more or less true for DD's but it can be applied to some mage jobs as well. Overall, it can extend to all jobs.

    Yes I know that actual "jobs" have not been implemented yet but everyone here gets what I mean, as well as what the thread starter meant.

    In regards to the infamous "class-exclusivity problem" it's something people need to deal with. There will always be jobs better suited for something- a dream combination if you will but the biggest problem is making all jobs relevant to the party.

    Incoming example! And mind you, this is only for the traditional party setup in FFXI back in the day.

    In FFXI for a long time THF had a lot of problems leveling, so did Monk, Warrior, and even Dark Knight. The favorite DD was always Samurai and still is although the "Unwanted Jobs-R-Us Club" has changed members.

    To be perfectly honest, I still think THF would have issues getting into PT (over some jobs) but not as bad as before.
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    Last edited by Anapingofness; 10-23-2011 at 11:17 AM.

  2. #52
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    hater is all he is to lazy to lvl a class ppl want
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  3. #53
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    Ain't no way I'll ever level lancer past 20 and I still don't see the problem one bit. In any game where classes actually differ on a functional level and not just for aesthesics, there will always be one superior class for each situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymcweed View Post
    hater is all he is to lazy to lvl a class ppl want
    People shouldn't be forced to level a specific class, especially for one specific encounter. Let's say Archer is in demand, it happened before. I don't have my Archer at 50 and honestly I don't have a lot of desire to level it at this moment. Why should I be forced to level a class I have little interest in for a single fight?
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    Job or class XXX parties happen because SE doesn't know how to balance.... Each patch they make class 'balance' adjustments that merely nerf one class and boost another.
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    It is indeed the player's fault. Ifrit can be downed by any competent group of people with mixed classes.
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    Simple solution: Everybody level a mage job. No matter what fight, you will ALWAYS need healers... so if you have one leveled, voila. You avoid the inability to join said parties.

    if you DON'T want to level the job other people want you to be, then don't expect to do the content with them. Either make your own group, find a group who will take you, or whatever... But in the end, people would rather have the highest chance of winning... and there is almost always a certain setup that gives you an edge of winning any fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess View Post
    It is indeed the player's fault. Ifrit can be downed by any competent group of people with mixed classes.
    It can be, but there is always 'The Best' classes to use that make the fight a great deal more easier, just like there was with darkhold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    WoW has this same issue.

    So does FFXI,

    So does Rift

    Class based games need certain classes to accomplish content.

    Thats how it works.
    It's a bit different when out of 8 available spaces, 5 of them are one class and that is considered "optimal." None of those games have that issue.
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    FFXI also had a little over 8 years to add around 20 jobs, and actually didn't have all that many on release ^^;
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