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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    That definition mostly refer to demons. These are suppose to be heroes with bird features. Example:
    Her definiton is spot on, though. Harpies have their origins in Greek and Roman mythology and were depicted as bird/woman hybrids (bird bodies and women's heads/faces; depending on the source, they were sometimes said to be filthy and gross, sometimes said to be beautiful) that tormented people (some of them deserved it, but some of them didn't; Greek Gods were depicted as notoriously petty) and brought evildoers to the Furies for punishment. There are no no "heroes with bird features" in any historical depiction of them. The stuff that you showed there is what happens when modern culture gets ahold of mythological creatures and turns them into cute monster girls instead. Japan has a weird obsession with making everything kawaii, no matter how repulsive it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
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    Why are you comparing real life theology with final fantasy's? You are aware that a Cait Sith is actually a folktale creature that steals souls in the Scottish Highlands, and the one here is a guardian trying to keep evil at bay right? Also, dragons in most religous culture are seen as symbols of evil and creatures associated with demons, though we have a race that's half bred with them and they save the world. Yeah, don't take reality into this game. It does. Not. Work.

    About the japan thing, you say it like America hasn't done the same. We have tv shows where The Devil actually lounges around earth solving crimes for people, Werewolves and Demons doing the same, Teenaged girls with Vampire friends protecting their towns and a few times the world. If you don't like he idea fine, but that's not gonna prove anything -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    Why are you comparing real life theology with final fantasy's? You are aware that a Cait Sith is actually a folktale creature that steals souls in the Scottish Highlands, and the one here is a guardian trying to keep evil at bay right? Also, dragons in most religous culture are seen as symbols of evil and creatures associated with demons, though we have a race that's half bred with them and they save the world. Yeah, don't take reality into this game. It does. Not. Work.
    I compared it with its real life counterpart. You compared it with unrelated games and anime. They're both apples/oranges. I mean, if you really want to get into how they've been depicted in the FF series, none of them seem particularly cute (or heroic) to me.

    And er. We have a halfbreed dragon race? That's kind of news to me. I hope you aren't referring to Au Ra.

    About the japan thing, you say it like America hasn't done the same. We have tv shows where The Devil actually lounges around earth solving crimes for people, Werewolves and Demons doing the same, Teenaged girls with Vampire friends protecting their towns and a few times the world. If you don't like he idea fine, but that's not gonna prove anything -_-
    Japan specifically takes everything and makes it super cute. America doesn't tend so much toward cute, though I guess there's some. I honestly don't care if we get a bird race or not. Mostly, I think a lot of what's being talked about in the thread is a lot of wishful thinking since it would make more work for the devs as far as rigging gear and whatnot. We won't see wings or taloned feet or any of that stuff. A bird race would end up having little feathery tufts for ears and a texture on the skin or something. Viera would end up being an Elezen model with cute bunny ears (maybe at least the females would be tall, lol). No matter what race we get next or how cool the concept art is, when it's implemented it will end up being basically a hyur with a few animal parts tacked on.
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