Paladin Materia

[Fernosaur]

Well fair enough, still it's an illusion to think you have major choices when in fact most of the time you do not.

On another while somewhat similar topic, i was in a group today with a SS stacking PLD doing more dps than a war, ofcourse the downside was that he flat lined his TP in under 3 minutes relying on TP refresh to keep up. I suppose is an alternative also if you do not mind relying on NIN/BRD but personally i don't want to gear my PLD to rely that heavily on others.

You have DPS numbers on that? That sounds crazy. I'm curious how much Skill Speed you need to actually push your DPS so high without overclipping Goring Blade.

[Reynhart]

You have DPS numbers on that? That sounds crazy. I'm curious how much Skill Speed you need to actually push your DPS so high without overclipping Goring Blade.

Would there be a value, since SS increase DoT numbers, that Facture would become a DPS increase, regardless of TP cost ?
If so, you could spend that GCD to not reapply GB too early.

[Launched]

On another while somewhat similar topic, i was in a group today with a SS stacking PLD doing more dps than a war.

Then that's just a bad WAR. Skillspeed isn't some secret amazing stat just for PLD.

[Edewen]

Then that's just a bad WAR. Skillspeed isn't some secret amazing stat just for PLD.

I've been seeing a lot of these bad warriors recently, 400 dps on sephirot bad. With paladin and drk fighting over after the patch, seems more tanks are trying to go warrior and don't know how to play it.

[RaineAmorie]

Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but Det isn't as effective when stacked on Pld since it doesn't effect auto attacks, thus not really benefitting SwO. I was just planning on dropping Crit/Parry in most of my slots, SkS is a good way to burn out of TP especially if using Fracture, and we already have lots of Acc on gear. I'm not saying Det is a bad stat to have, as it also affects your base damage and healing, it's just less effective for Pld's dps stance than others.

[Synestra]

Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but Det isn't as effective when stacked on Pld since it doesn't effect auto attacks, thus not really benefitting SwO.

This is true and it hit PLD most and i dont understand why they did it while buffing CRIT, its still worth as there are no good alternatives for secondaries. Im still kinda salty that they fuckedup SS as i was hyping myself for upcoming Haste stat... instead it stayed same/became worse. Tbh in 4.0 SE needs to revamp most if not all secondaries, this "avoid parry like plague" or "ewww SS eats mah TP" because it makes gearing annoying and it gets boring to stack same stats for years.

[JackFross]

I'm seeing parry mentioned and just pls no.

PLD is the one tank job where Parry is essentially worthless. Let's not do that. You have a shield, you have block synergy, focus on blocking, don't bump Parry for pointless additional stuff. You definitely want crit > det > sks (though the 6 det on the IV makes it pretty bad compared to the 9 sks you can get from the sks ones, as was mentioned). You would think that TP is an issue, but none of the fights in Savage are 100% uptime on the boss. They're all short periods broken up by downtime where TP regenerates, so don't worry about TP things when considering how to meld.

[keyburz]

I like to throw money away. On that note, how much mp could I gain by melding piety for my pld? Also, does piety count as a "main stat" or is that available to overmeld

[StouterTaru]

I like to throw money away. On that note, how much mp could I gain by melding piety for my pld? Also, does piety count as a "main stat" or is that available to overmeld

Piety is a main stat, so no overmelding. If you put Piety V into all 18 slots, including weapon/shield, you would get about 650 MP as a PLD.