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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    They fixed the problem of accuracy by letting us slot materia into gear
    Afaik you can only Meld main stats into the gear midas/lore so this would only work on crafted items...not only that why would i gimp my stats just to be able to hit 100% of the time when i do a bit of damage to help out that 10% of my time that i spend in a group? Seems pointless when Tanks get Acc in their stance.
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    Turns 100% of Skill Speed into Accuracy

    Fixed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    They fixed the problem of accuracy by letting us slot materia into gear
    That actually doesn't fix the problem, i'd rather take Critical Chance to buff my heals too. I also don't think Ast needs Acc for their damage abilities, could be wrong though.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 03-02-2016 at 05:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Cleric Stance
    Turns 100% of Skill Speed into Accuracy

    Fixed.
    Only if DoM gear have skill speed instead of spell speed


    Why not just asking for accuracy on DoM weapons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Only if DoM gear have skill speed instead of spell speed


    Why not just asking for accuracy on DoM weapons?
    Because it's healers who hit and miss because of this issue from my understanding and free time with cleric stance is the only time a healer should DPS at all, acc on wep won't affect us hitting the tank with our cures.

    (without cleric, our dps is poo.)
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    Last edited by Lillia; 03-02-2016 at 05:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Only if DoM gear have skill speed instead of spell speed


    Why not just asking for accuracy on DoM weapons?
    Since they are pretty much the same thing I don't see the difference lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Since they are pretty much the same thing I don't see the difference lol
    They are pretty much the same but not the same. DoM can include BLM and SMN which have different acc rates than melee and as far as I know at the moment doesn't have any accuracy problems with their gears, that is one reason I didn't say DoM weapons.

    The second reason is healers honestly do not need the accuracy beyond the times we're dps'ing and we should only dps under the condition of us having the free period to do so. Additionally, us not using cleric stance when we dps, a skill which only exists to raise our dps would be a waste. So it'd make more sense to add it onto cleric than a bunch of weapons, it'd also mean less work for SE to put it on a skill used by all healers rather than adjust the weapons for each healer.
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    Last edited by Lillia; 03-02-2016 at 06:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillia View Post
    They are pretty much the same but not the same. DoM can include BLM and SMN which have different acc rates than melee and as far as I know at the moment doesn't have any accuracy problems with their gears, that is one reason I didn't say DoM weapons.

    The second reason is healers honestly do not need the accuracy beyond the times we're dps'ing and we should only dps under the condition of us having the free period to do so. Additionally, us not using cleric stance when we dps, a skill which only exists to raise our dps would be a waste so it'd make more sense to add it onto cleric than a bunch of weapons.

    It'd also mean less work for SE to put it on a skill rather than adjust the weapons.
    Which is why Cleric Stance should have 100% Accuracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    That actually doesn't fix the problem, i'd rather take Critical Chance to buff my heals too.
    The critical still RNG tho even it's over 700. I prefer put some accuracy and vitality/spell speed.
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    While I'd approve of the raiding meta moving more into full-time healing and away from "main heal/off-healer that sometimes helps but mostly DPSes", I think it's pretty ludicrous that I'm missing so many of my spells in faceroll content when I have nothing better to do than help make the run go more efficiently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    While I'd approve of the raiding meta moving more into full-time healing and away from "main heal/off-healer that sometimes helps but mostly DPSes", I think it's pretty ludicrous that I'm missing so many of my spells in faceroll content when I have nothing better to do than help make the run go more efficiently.
    Exactly. I feel like cleric should at least provide enough of an accuracy buff to avoid missing in things like expert roulette etc. Maybe some melds required for higher content caps. I have no issue with the meta moving toward a full time healing sort of deal but...that means I expect healing difficulty and mechanics in content to keep me occupied and also not to get saddled with more dps moves if they don't seem to want me using them in dungeons etc.
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