Ilberd

[Frederick22]

I'm pretty sure he held that viewpoint long before that point in the story.

when? If I remeber right, it is the first time Varis said something like that.

Who else? Gaius? He was alone. The emperor did not share his point of views.

[Theodric]

Gaius wished to 'save' Eorzea. Varis is more concerned with Hydaelyn as a whole. Both were/are prepared to go to great lengths to ensure that their plans come to fruition - and let's be honest here, if they succeeded it's very likely that the Primal/Eikon threat would lessen considerably. That they resort to extreme measures does not necessarily mean they are evil. At this point we can only speculate as to Garlemald's overall motives since a lot of stuff is still shrouded in mystery. I do not feel it is unfair to give them the benefit of the doubt regarding their morality when we're dealing with a setting that goes to great lengths to paint many antagonists as morally complex rather than irredeemably evil.

Which is why we really should just agree to disagree, I suppose.

[Lauront]

when? If I remeber right, it is the first time Varis said something like that.

Who else? Gaius? He was alone. The emperor did not share his point of views.

It's also the first time Varis said much at all.

None of it is a direct parallel, though I actually quite like the "Allag as Rome" comparison.

Great, as long as we recognise that it also leaves no reasons to care one whit about the Ala Mhigans or Ala Mhigo. Perhaps SE could present more reasons to be sympathetic with them, much like they could with Garlemald. We're already working with the very questionable city-state of Ul'dah.

As for the Garlean motives, wanting the Primals vanquished for the threat they posed to their conquest does not preclude wanting them obliterated for the broader threat they pose, which is pretty much the viewpoint Varis is expressing. So I'd say there is some evidence of such a strain of thinking within the Empire.

BTW, who is this Fern? A SE developer/designer?

[Kallera]

BTW, who is this Fern? A SE developer/designer?

Michael Christopher Koji Fox, AKA Fernehalwes.

I don't think the Garleans are even aware of Hydelyn as an entity, and see it as just a planet. Is there any mention of them having this insight, other than possibly gaius and possessed nael?

The reason is that it sound like Garlemeld (or at least Garleans) have no cosmology, and are persuing the primal issue from a practical standpoint, rather than the bidding of spirits and crystals. That results in some extreme answers, but these are also answers Eorzea was considering, it was only in the efforts of our character The scions and cid's crew that provided an alternative.

Omega doesn't necessarily have to be stolen to bring ruination, the gcs can just as easily be tempted with a solution that would "fix" things permanently.

[Morningstar1337]

Michael Christopher Koji Fox, AKA Fernehalwes.

Gonna elaborate just in case.

Fernehalwes is the head of the Localization development for the game. an thus make up parts of the lore and is privy to the other parts of the Lore made by the Japenese devs.