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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Eh, I don't believe we need to take the fight to Garlemald. Ala Mhigo was conquered fair and square - much like it sought to conquer the rest of Eorzea. 'Liberating' Ala Mhigo isn't necessarily a good thing. It's been quite some time since it was occupied and the people living there are unlikely to want the status quo to change - especially if they've come to befriend or look up to the Garlean stationed there. Let's not forget that there's likely to be a lot of Garlean civilians there too - what are we going to do with them? Kick them out? Force them to adhere to Eorzea's ways?

    No. I'd rather the Garlemald situation be far more complex than going after the 'bad guys'. Especially when FF games have a long history of making sympathetic/morally grey antagonists.
    That happened like 25 years ago? People still remember how it was before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    That happened like 25 years ago? People still remember how it was before.
    That's more than enough time for quite a lot of people to grow up in the new Ala Mhigo and embrace the new culture. Plus many of the people kicking up a fuss about Ala Mhigo aren't exactly stellar examples of noble causes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    That's more than enough time for quite a lot of people to grow up in the new Ala Mhigo and embrace the new culture. Plus many of the people kicking up a fuss about Ala Mhigo aren't exactly stellar examples of noble causes.
    Its not. But well its just an opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    Its not. But well its just an opinion.
    It is, though. Twenty five years is a pretty long time. Just look at how much our own society changed in the space of 1980 - 2005 as a rough example. Most of the playable races have a similar potential life span to our own, though given how dangerous Eorzea as a whole the life expectancy isn't necessarily great. Yet there's going to be a lot of people who were born into Ala Mhigan society or just generally embraced Garlean rule for various reasons. Many people there - both natives and Garleans alike - are not going to want to be displaced or 'liberated'. Much in the same way as the Ul'dahns and Ishgardian's aren't prepared to do away with the massive quality of life gap between the poor and the rich.

    Or at least that is what I hope for, anyway. It's certainly logical and so far the consequences of such things have been explored fairly well - or at least addressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    t is, though. Twenty five years is a pretty long time. Just look at how much our own society changed in the space of 1980 - 2005 as a rough example. Most of the playable races have a similar potential life span to our own, though given how dangerous Eorzea as a whole the life expectancy isn't necessarily great. Yet there's going to be a lot of people who were born into Ala Mhigan society or just generally embraced Garlean rule for various reasons. Many people there - both natives and Garleans alike - are not going to want to be displaced or 'liberated'. Much in the same way as the Ul'dahns and Ishgardian's aren't prepared to do away with the massive quality of life gap between the poor and the rich.

    Or at least that is what I hope for, anyway. It's certainly logical and so far the consequences of such things have been explored fairly well - or at least addressed.
    Bringing real life evidence doesnt not help so much on a fantasy game, but we clearly saw that the dev team is using real life cultures to made the societies on the game.

    Lets make a clear example, the URSS. How many on the countries that were part of it wanted to get free?
    Also I dont see how many garlean citizens from another parts would live on ala mhigo, if there are, they are not many.
    Despite the ones that where brainshowed, there are a lot that still remember the old ways, a lot that probably are keeping their heads down beacuse they cannot do much about it. If a dictatorship or empire conquers a foreing country, and the native people doesnt not accept it, it will be a long on time, lots of generations until they finally accept it. 25 years its not enought. Its only 1 generation, there has to be more.

    But I agree that ala mhigo will brings up a lot of issues, since the WoL will probably deal with lots of factions. The bad garleans, the inocent civil garleans, the ala mhidgans that want and dont want to be free , and the fanatical ala mhidgans that will probably go to any leghts to liberate their homeland.
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    Last edited by Frederick22; 03-04-2016 at 07:46 AM.