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    imo, they should never have nerfed multi-shot, then we would at least have a method of dealing spike damage. We have all these abilities that reduce emnity like chameleon and quelling strike, but they're effectively worthless atm considering our damage has been gimped so bad.

    As mentioned, arc had enough weaknesses that taking away our ability to do meaningful damage was pointless. (i.e. we're the only dow that is rooted while using basic attacks, lower hp, lowest def, etc.) As it is now, we have no value in a party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    imo, they should never have nerfed multi-shot, then we would at least have a method of dealing spike damage. We have all these abilities that reduce emnity like chameleon and quelling strike, but they're effectively worthless atm considering our damage has been gimped so bad.

    As mentioned, arc had enough weaknesses that taking away our ability to do meaningful damage was pointless. (i.e. we're the only dow that is rooted while using basic attacks, lower hp, lowest def, etc.) As it is now, we have no value in a party.
    Um, are you aware that even if they had not nerfed multishot, your multishot damage would still be garbage since they reduced non tp attack damage?

    I believe this is also why the damage on quicknock sucks balls now, each hit does same as a regular shot from what i've seen. I guess someone forgot to check the tables and re adjust it.

    Pre 1.19 archer damage was all in it's normal attacks, and in blood letter for boss fights. It's other tp attacks have always been sub par.

    Post 1.19 auto attacks and light shot nerfed, good bye arc dps, oh and nerf blood letter for good measure.

    Some one screwed up, it's as simple as that.
    Do you think SE will take notice, of this quiet little wheel that needs oil, but isn't squeaking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akuun View Post
    Um, are you aware that even if they had not nerfed multishot, your multishot damage would still be garbage since they reduced non tp attack damage?

    I believe this is also why the damage on quicknock sucks balls now, each hit does same as a regular shot from what i've seen. I guess someone forgot to check the tables and re adjust it.

    Pre 1.19 archer damage was all in it's normal attacks, and in blood letter for boss fights. It's other tp attacks have always been sub par.

    Post 1.19 auto attacks and light shot nerfed, good bye arc dps, oh and nerf blood letter for good measure.

    Some one screwed up, it's as simple as that.
    Do you think SE will take notice, of this quiet little wheel that needs oil, but isn't squeaking?
    regardless, they practically destroyed arc as a dd, and it was not really necessary to that extreme, considering that they boosted the damage output of the other classes.
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    Yeah my main was archer but they over nerfed it, but at least i got marauder and lancer now at 50 , i would really like for SE to remove the nerf on raging strikes with multishot, i tried to fight ifrit but was pointless my highest weaponskill was nearly 500 with all the buffs as possible, most of the time i had 200+ ws while lancer has a 900+ dmg weaponskill, well the highest i saw atm, so yeah they really need to check archer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    regardless, they practically destroyed arc as a dd, and it was not really necessary to that extreme, considering that they boosted the damage output of the other classes.
    I don't agree, they didn't practically destroy archer, they completely obliterated it. The only class that does less damage now is gladiator and that's the tank.
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    I'd really like to see them undo the Multishot TP nerf. It's absurd that MRD can do Broad Swing to a group of mobs and instantly get 3000 TP, but I'm stuck at 500 TP for a 3-arrow shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    I'd really like to see them undo the Multishot TP nerf. It's absurd that MRD can do Broad Swing to a group of mobs and instantly get 3000 TP, but I'm stuck at 500 TP for a 3-arrow shot.
    Indeed. The TP nerf was way worse than the damage nerf. :/ This really was uneeded and unwanted. After all multishot was the way of ARC generating TP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akuun View Post
    I don't agree, they didn't practically destroy archer, they completely obliterated it. The only class that does less damage now is gladiator and that's the tank.
    You just like disagreeing with everything I say, even when our opinions are similar don't you?
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    Archers were the towering pentacle of dps, but then 1.19 happened. . . .
    1.19?
    91.1?
    9.11 OMG!!! it all makes sense! it's a tourist plot!

    (let's see how many of you try to correct "tourist")
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    The disagree was a joke, I do agree they really over did things.
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