Pally Is Almost Perfect

[Synestra]

2. Dark Dance and Bulwark are way under-powered compared to Raw Intuition. They're not only unreliable, they also have a weaker average efficacy.

Also could anyone explain why Bulwark has 180s recast while being 60% chance while DD is same 60% with way shorther recast? is it because block is potentially stronger than parry? Also Bulwark is pretty damn weaksauce and unreliable for bosses, atm it feels more like filler CD for singletarget fights.

[SpookyGhost]

is it because block is potentially stronger than parry?

Probably. Also probably why Sheltron is one block only.

[eagledorf]

Also could anyone explain why Bulwark has 180s recast while being 60% chance while DD is same 60% with way shorther recast? is it because block is potentially stronger than parry? Also Bulwark is pretty damn weaksauce and unreliable for bosses, atm it feels more like filler CD for singletarget fights.

Uh, probably because Dark Dance is 30% (Unless I missed a change at some point)

[Synestra]

Uh, probably because Dark Dance is 30% (Unless I missed a change at some point)

Aww shit my bad, remebered it wrong. But still i would like to see slight reduce on Blulwarks CD maybe 150 or 120 so you can always combine it with Awarness+Foresight, but if thats too much then they could reduce block % to 50% to compensate CD reduction. Also i would like to see Tempered Will as an 90-120s CD as its already pretty situational, its awesome when it works, makes add picking easier in last phase of seph ex for example.

[eagledorf]

Aww shit my bad, remebered it wrong. But still i would like to see slight reduce on Blulwarks CD maybe 150 or 120 so you can always combine it with Awarness+Foresight, but if thats too much then they could reduce block % to 50% to compensate CD reduction. Also i would like to see Tempered Will as an 90-120s CD as its already pretty situational, its awesome when it works, makes add picking easier in last phase of seph ex for example.

For Bulwark to be balanced with Raw Intuition, it should probably have a 90s recast considering it also has a shorter duration and doesn't give a bonus perk like RI gives Wrath (on top of, you know, being random). Then of course Dark Dance needs a buff to match, maybe increased to a 40% parry rate or even higher. That's crazy obviously; they should nerf Raw Intuition, but I doubt the devs have the courage to do it so we'll end up with something bizarre one way or the other (unbalanced like we have now, or stupid like a 50% parry buff up 1/3 of the time).

[Violette]

Also could anyone explain why Bulwark has 180s recast while being 60% chance while DD is same 60% with way shorther recast? is it because block is potentially stronger than parry? Also Bulwark is pretty damn weaksauce and unreliable for bosses, atm it feels more like filler CD for singletarget fights.

At the moment we're seeing blocks up to 33%? Might be lower after every pld moved to vit acc, but 33%+60% block rate on top of the already good block rate (so we're talking 70%upwards block minimum), means it's a viable defense against multi-hit physical tank busters.

Dark Dance is only a 30% chance increase to something with 20% damage reduction (and a low 7-8% base), which can have 20% evasion added on top (not good), meaning for physical multi-hit tank busters DRK's have to burn Shadowskin/Shadow Wall instead of say, bulwark.

Also because the dev's hate plds.

[Synestra]

At the moment we're seeing blocks up to 33%?

Depends if its kite or tower shield, with thordans tower shield blocks were 28-29% and with kite it was around 23-24%. Both Bulwark and Shelltron are actually pretty good with towers as they have less block rate than kites, so you kinda gain more out from those skills when using tower shields.

[SpookyGhost]

Might be lower after every pld moved to vit acc

STR stopped affecting block/parry in 3.0. It's purely block rate/block strength on the shield now.

[Lyth]

Also could anyone explain why Bulwark has 180s recast while being 60% chance while DD is same 60% with way shorther recast? is it because block is potentially stronger than parry? Also Bulwark is pretty damn weaksauce and unreliable for bosses, atm it feels more like filler CD for singletarget fights.

It's not just the fact that block is stronger than parry. It's also the fact that PLD is the only tank which has access to both. Even passively, PLD has an advantage over other tanks when it comes to physical mitigation, before you take into account factors like the unique str down debuff and Sheltron. Bulwark definitely has its uses against bosses - not all high damage moments in fights occur in the form of a singular tankbuster. Bulwark is great for softening up the rate of incoming damage, and by extension, facilitating stance dancing.

DD is an amazing skill, but I'd happily trade in the DA evasion element for a short duration physical damage reduction ability. That's the one thing that's really missing from our kit. The evasion is fun and gives a unique style to the class, but it also feels unreliable and doesn't have the best synergy with the parry part of the skill.

[Synestra]

Bulwark definitely has its uses against bosses - not all high damage moments in fights occur in the form of a singular tankbuster.

Yeah its good for "fluff" damage and its decent for that but if theres multiple adds that does physical damage it rocks, its just the recast that kinda ruins it imo. Its kinda PLD's signature skill as it involves shield so it would be nice to use it slightly more often.

Personally i love WAR CD's as not only they are multipurpose(defensive/offensive)but all of them have short to medium recast times, longest CD is 180 and its their "godmode" CD excatly same as Bulwark.