Self-Destructing Community?

[Melondra]

back in the day when mmo's first came out you think we had video guids to show us everything before we even ran it once, no we didn't the internet was new and MMO just came out at the time "EverQuest" This generation is spoiled beyond belief and they think everything should be done for them. Just like you see 5 and 6 years walking around with I-phone 6's and I-Pads. If you saw a guid on you tube then technically you didn't clear anything some one did it for you.

[Sax]

I feel like people are talking about two different types of people here. There are the people that want to go in blind and learn as they go for their first time, which is great. It's fun to figure things out on your own, and a totally reasonable thing to do this close to patch day.

But when you don't know anything about the fight and go into it expecting everyone else to explain it to you right off the bat; well in that case you probably should have looked up the fight first / read a guide / watched a video. Not only is it a massive waste of time which could be spent learning/clearing the new fights, but it can ruin it for the other people who want to run it first without being told what to expect.

EDIT: I want to believe that the 'watch a video' comment was directed more towards the second type of person rather than the first. At least I hope it was lol.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

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What most of us are saying is there is nothing wrong with asking for tips if you're at least polite about it. Obviously, joining in things like EX primals and savage raids in the hopes of being taught on the fly is a major taboo, but most won't see a problem with newbies asking for a quick heads up in the easier content since the steps are simple and quick to explain in a few lines and 2 minutes. Like I said before, people who do speak up and ask for tips are usually the ones that are willing to learn and learn from their mistakes. Those that don't say anything tend to cause wipes. If you don't want to be teaching people during your daily EX roulette/Midas run, then DF is gonna drive you nuts.