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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    I've found that if someones new and that they actually speak up and ask for help, they get it. Every time.
    I've found that if someones new and they don't ask for help, the expectation is that they know what's coming.

    Generally speaking, in dungeons, it's not much new. Dodge aoes. Deal damage. If something you can click on, click on it. It's mechanic heavy raids that may require some assistance to some, so don't be afraid to ask!
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    Famine Cruor
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    I'm going to generalize a bit and say that this is an issue I only really see from players on mega-servers like Balmung or Gilgamesh, where you rarely see newer players because they're so hard to get into. Being essentially closed to newbies (unless you buy a transfer) has created a mentality of elitism that I find regrettable, especially since I only play in casual content and thats where I've encountered the majority of the unwarranted self-aggrandizement! The actual hardcore raiders I've hung out with were all pretty cool guys who don't put up with toxicity at all, since it's a fun killer.
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    Last edited by Galgarion; 02-27-2016 at 07:57 PM.

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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I've found that if someones new and that they actually speak up and ask for help, they get it. Every time.
    I've found that if someones new and they don't ask for help, the expectation is that they know what's coming.

    Generally speaking, in dungeons, it's not much new. Dodge aoes. Deal damage. If something you can click on, click on it. It's mechanic heavy raids that may require some assistance to some, so don't be afraid to ask!

    Even if people do ask, there's little time to explain because there is always that one impatient person who facepulls the boss, the complains during a wipe.
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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    It's week 1, so I'm not expecting people to watch videos, I've made macros with explanations of the fights if people are wiping, but if you're going in completely blind to a fight, please pay attention. There are just some things though that are...frustrating, like DPS sticking to a boss when the ads come out. Monsters with less HP than the boss aren't a new mechanic, please go kill them first, that's been your job since the first dungeon. Then there are repeating mechanics, like Brawler in A8. You figured out in A6 that you have to stack for double lasers, so why do you run away when he appears in A8, or get on the wrong tiles for Swindler, or spread out for every stacking mechanic? It's always ok to make mistakes and learn from them, but if you wipe to a mechanic you've previously seen, get asked if you have any questions or need help, and don't say anything, only to do the same thing the next run, it's like dealing with a brick wall.
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    F'lhinna Kutseru
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I've found that if someones new and that they actually speak up and ask for help, they get it. Every time.
    I've found that if someones new and they don't ask for help, the expectation is that they know what's coming.
    This. When people are new to some content and don't say a word about it because they expect to "wing it", thats when it can annoy people who already know the fhe instance, and its understandable.
    You have two options.
    1. Make a blind training party on PF.
    2. Go on DF. But, by doing so you agree to let the others know you're new and that you will both ask for advices on what is coming and follow them, weither it will spoil the fights for you or not.

    As i said going on a new instance through DF and not warning others and potentially waste experienced people's times simply because you didn't want to spoil the fight is selfish.

    Im a very patient guy, but if you do keep failing because you didnt ask or follow my advices i for sure will rage at you.
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    Last edited by CUTS3R; 02-28-2016 at 05:44 AM.

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    Jim Berry
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    Malboro
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I've found that if someones new and that they actually speak up and ask for help, they get it. Every time.
    I've found that if someones new and they don't ask for help, the expectation is that they know what's coming.

    Generally speaking, in dungeons, it's not much new. Dodge aoes. Deal damage. If something you can click on, click on it. It's mechanic heavy raids that may require some assistance to some, so don't be afraid to ask!
    Was in A8 earlier. Had 3 new dps and one new tank. I offered to help. I was typing, but the other tank Triggered his pull macro while I was explaining the basic mechanics outside of what's learned in A7.
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