Self-Destructing Community?

[Spawnie]

It's like with each new patch comes more rudeness, Alexander Midas was a hot mess the first day in A7 ppl where yelling, kicking and screaming the whole time now don't get me wrong most of Midas is easy but there are a lot of mechanics in A7 for ppl to learn...videos arnt always available when content is like same day new lol

its that bad in normal these days would be 500x worse in savage and ex primals.. thats the reason i havent even bother raiding.. would turn me off ff14 all together so i avoid it to enjoy the game more XD yesh i wanna do them for achivements but not willing to endure that sort of toxicity sooo :P

[Igneous]

Guides are up within hours of new content going live, if not by the next day. So, if you aren't there on release day, take the time to look it up. That's where the explosion comes from, cause honestly.. alot of us are tired of doing the research ourselves and then expected to hand hold lazy people who don't want to "spoil the fight."

This is exactly why I stay away from pve.


Lazy...yeah okay.

[CassandraJean]

I understand how some people get frustrated that they join a roulette queue in the DF and end up with new people in a group that wipe on something that they, themselves, know very well. I understand that brief moment of "aaaauugh!" because something you thought would be quick turned into something lengthy. But to get pissy at people for it is ridiculous. Just teach the new players, explain the mechanics. There are very few fights in this game that can't be explained in a pretty simple manner
(EX fights are another story but I'm going to assume that if you want to farm EX primals you join a PF for that and I do understand being angry when someone new joins a farming PF party but that's a different discussion.)

It's especially jarring to see people get angry about players not knowing brand new fights. I joined a Midas7 group on patch day and there was a healer who quit because people were new. On patch day. People like that are just going to give themselves heart attacks they are wound so tightly. Personally, I love going into content and learning the fight first hand. Getting scared by mechanics and then learning how to deal with them.

[Kacho_Nacho]

But to get pissy at people for it is ridiculous. Just teach the new players, explain the mechanics.

It's especially jarring to see people get angry about players not knowing brand new fights. I joined a Midas7 group on patch day and there was a healer who quit because people were new. On patch day. People like that are just going to give themselves heart attacks they are wound so tightly.

I wish I could Like this 100 times.

[blindfoldedkaos]

If i'm new to a dungeon or a raid or anything i usually just say 'hey i'm new, is there anything i should know about this dungeon?' and 97% of the time people will tell me the mechanics of stuff when we reach it,
and vice versa, if someone is new and doesn't know the instance, i usually ask who, and explain parts of the dungeon as we reach them, it works out well,
the 3% are the anti-social ones or the ones who don't speak english, but i end up working out the mechanics on the fly, or ask in my FC chat while on route to boss.

[Mael-bess]

If i'm new to a dungeon or a raid or anything i usually just say 'hey i'm new, is there anything i should know about this dungeon?' and 97% of the time people will tell me the mechanics of stuff when we reach it,
and vice versa, if someone is new and doesn't know the instance, i usually ask who, and explain parts of the dungeon as we reach them, it works out well,
the 3% are the anti-social ones or the ones who don't speak english, but i end up working out the mechanics on the fly, or ask in my FC chat while on route to boss.

I do this too, along with "Can we please explore everything too?=)" since i like my achievements, nobody turned me down or was rude to me til today, not once, i also got some few quick explanations on some bosses or marks (if you mark the boss as #1 i understand i'm supposed to ignore the adds and just burn it down), even at some guildhests i got a few tips.

But then again i'm only at level 40, regardless there's bad weeds everywhere, i'm sure as hell NOT going to read\watch a guide for a normal dungeon i'm doing the first time, it's just ridiculous to even think about it, i'll do this also with high level dungeons, i want to experience new stuff and have fun, not turn it into a chore. This is a game not a job.

[canegal]

But there is less and less players who help, who care about de new ones... I don't know if it's the same on your server but in mine, nobody say "HI/Hello" when we start a dungeon... if people dont do that how can they take the time to explain a strat or something??? they don't care about everything all they want is "fast run, higher gain"...
And that's the big problem in every MMO most of the players want all immediately they dont have patience...

So find a good FC create or find a friendly LS and play with players who are nice and friendly ! Stay cool and help the other. That's the best advise i think...

[RickXRolled]

I'm not really worried about new players. I'm worried about "veterans" that still can't play their job and get by because they've been getting carried since 2.0.

The new guy still has potential to learn, the veteran feels like he knows everything and refuses to accept advice.

[Maaizr]

I'm not really worried about new players. I'm worried about "veterans" that still can't play their job and get by because they've been getting carried since 2.0.

The new guy still has potential to learn, the veteran feels like he knows everything and refuses to accept advice.

^