Why do people not understand A8?

[Galgarion]

Did an A7 DF today with a Paladin who refused to swap at four stacks. Really had no idea what his frickin' problem was. I guess he really wanted those meaningless commendations.

[Werhusky]

Did an A7 DF today with a Paladin who refused to swap at four stacks. Really had no idea what his frickin' problem was. I guess he really wanted those meaningless commendations.

A7 NM doesnt need a tankswap... with mitigation and heals u max out at 6 stacks then they fall off anyway. just what I experiences when my friend and me tanked for a change and I missed tankswaps

[MXMoondoggie]

The one thing with A8 in DF that is bugging me might just be an EU thing somebody is teaching people a really weird stacking method especially the Germans/French where the person with the AoE stands at the side of the boss miles away. Just run out of the small AoE's then stack on it's butt where everyone is already close by why this run miles off? It's like some people have to be special snowflakes and make everyone else run after them XD.

[Tsilyi]

This! Mechanics are easy, but people can't DPS properly.

I've honestly never seen the enrage ever. I've wiped only to people being downright awful at avoiding any of the mechanics or tanks simply not picking up the individual robots in intermission phase. Also I have seen groups that don't make it to 65% before first execute still kill the boss somehow. Actually... I never really bother to look at how far we get the boss before execute. Maybe I'll start doing that more. That said I have definitely stopped queuing in progress for that particular one.

[Werhusky]

I've honestly never seen the enrage ever. I've wiped only to people being downright awful at avoiding any of the mechanics or tanks simply not picking up the individual robots in intermission phase. Also I have seen groups that don't make it to 65% before first execute still kill the boss somehow. Actually... I never really bother to look at how far we get the boss before execute. Maybe I'll start doing that more. That said I have definitely stopped queuing in progress for that particular one.

The enrage / DPS problem is maybe somewhat connected to Data center... On chaos if I DF I see about 5 enrages (or somehow early wipes like on onslaughter lol) then 1 kill :/

[Edewen]

The enrage wipes are kind of sad though. Not that i would use such a program, but hearing of people doing only 500 dps with the ilvl requirement of 200 is shocking. Tools like SSS would be nice, but they have no effect on the people who don't care.

[Archaell]

The enrage / DPS problem is maybe somewhat connected to Data center... On chaos if I DF I see about 5 enrages (or somehow early wipes like on onslaughter lol) then 1 kill :/

I have been having good days and bad days. One day people can actually do enough dps without wipes and then the next one it is one enrage wipe after another >_> Could someone give me the time table when the good enough dps people get replaced by the bad dps ones?

Amongst the frustration, as if the loot system isn't bad enough, I have been kinda wishing there was a dps check right at the start to see if you have even chance. Those enrage wipes really hurt after all the work. I wouldn't mind if the fight would be made of three parts either. It is the grindy casual content after all.

[Werhusky]

Archi, I run only after 7 ST during weekdays and probs not Tuesday/Thursday/Friday now figure what you consider good days

Noticed Tuesday/Thursday are very common raiddays atleast on Cerby so maybe all dem other days... but who knows maybe I am part of the problem o.o

[MXMoondoggie]

The enrage / DPS problem is maybe somewhat connected to Data center... On chaos if I DF I see about 5 enrages (or somehow early wipes like on onslaughter lol) then 1 kill :/

That's because the Chaos DF is full of garbage. I think on Chaos a lot more people just have their own parties they use for everything even more casual content so if you want to solo queue to finish dailies and weeklies you get stuck a lot of the time with a mess being dragged through content by one or two decent players. I used to play on Balmung before the server transfer so I was in DF with the North American pool and the change in quality in DF alone since moving to the EU pool is incredible. Not just in players not being as good but the needing to use contrived idiot methods just so people can do something. Like even LotA I never saw that dumb pull the Dragon to one end of the arena thing on NA servers they were able to move and kill the skeletons with the Dragon sitting in the middle.

Not all DF parties are bad on Chaos but I find that 90% or more of my smooth runs are ones I did with FC members.

[MXMoondoggie]

I have been having good days and bad days. One day people can actually do enough dps without wipes and then the next one it is one enrage wipe after another >_> Could someone give me the time table when the good enough dps people get replaced by the bad dps ones?

I don;t think there is much of a specific time lol. The only thing I find is if anything is left for the last couple of days before a reset you get some of the absolute worst parties. Sunday and Monday are a nightmare. Tuesday right after reset is probably the best bet until the evening when all the kids get on. Pre 5pm and post 11pm BST are usually better times to solo queue stuff on Chaos. Only Tues-Fri though