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    Zaj_Quilos's Avatar
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    Zaj Quilos
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    I was in Alex the other day and I started to hard cast raise (with a notification) and then shortly afterwards the WHM started doing it too, so we were both doing it. I was like errr wtf but thought i should pull out to actually heal people and then the WHM did it too. Twice not paying attention! It caused the situation to get worse and then for us to wipe. and then they just said "I hate astros" in the party chat. When I pointed out i was already hard casting raising, with a notification that they didn't notice. They were all "you didn't notice I had POM on!"

    Just awful attitude.
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaj_Quilos View Post
    I was in Alex the other day and I started to hard cast raise (with a notification) and then shortly afterwards the WHM started doing it too, so we were both doing it. I was like errr wtf but thought i should pull out to actually heal people and then the WHM did it too. Twice not paying attention! It caused the situation to get worse and then for us to wipe. and then they just said "I hate astros" in the party chat. When I pointed out i was already hard casting raising, with a notification that they didn't notice. They were all "you didn't notice I had POM on!"

    Just awful attitude.
    PoM is the same as lightspeed for AST (lightspeed is greater but well...)
    Thinking that he was right because he is a whm
    Means that he did not understand the healing synergie

    Plus whm are helpless without AST or sch
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    Zaj Quilos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    PoM is the same as lightspeed for AST (lightspeed is greater but well...)
    Thinking that he was right because he is a whm
    Means that he did not understand the healing synergie

    Plus whm are helpless without AST or sch
    I mained WHM before AST and know how fast POM is so even if I saw it, it wouldn't have affected my decision.
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaj_Quilos View Post
    I mained WHM before AST and know how fast POM is so even if I saw it, it wouldn't have affected my decision.
    Yes i do agree
    If you start hard casting it
    The other healer should focus on healing
    It's useless to compete on who can cast faster XD
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    Kaenbyou's Avatar
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    Chiaki Nanami
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Well, the thing is, people have a lot of misconception about AST, with all the buff, nerf and whatever that happens, it might add to the confusion.
    Now back to the diurnal/nocturnal discussion, I really despise nocturnal for how inefficient it is, even when paired with a whm.
    As someone that played in raid content every healer in the game, I can see when a tool is flawed for a heal, and noct stance is, but sometimes, even trying to argue and defending your point is cause for bitter insult.
    I remember that farm party in thordan ex where I was playing AST diurnal with a WHM, the heal was going fine, no deaths because of that, even managed to dps a lot, but we kept wiping because of stupid (dps eating the gaze, tank not positioning correctly).
    After countless wipes, they got the nerve to tell "a thordan ex party with an AST in diurnal and a WHM was doomed to fail anyway" then many of them ragequitted.
    Well sorry, next time, I'll shield you before you take the gaze and run in the death floor or eat a divebomb right in the face, that'll do the trick.
    So to go back to the OP, you can run with no issue at all with AST diurnal and WHM, we already tested in 3.0 savage raid and all the new 3.2 content (except savage at the moment) and it works wonder.
    However, never ever use noct stance with SCH, or else you deserve all the bitter comment you can get.
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    Nhai Tayuun
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I have not seen WHMs being overly rude or bitter in any way, and I refuse to heal in Noct stance unless I absolutely have to because we need the shields.
    The main reason being that my MP management is more on the poor side, and with shields shattering after every hit, I'd be out of MP after a few casts. I'm also one of those healers who like to dps, and Diurnal lets me do that better.
    As a former WHM main and SCH hater, regen is way more up my alley than SCH-like Noct Stance anyway.

    Also, while mitigation is nice and everything, unless one hit instantly kills people without mitigation, I feel it's wasted. With double regen on them from both WHM and AST, the HoT ticks are so strong, you can stay in Cleric Stance for extended amounts of time, and regen stays active a lot longer than those shields would stay. And most WHMs seem to totally accept that.

    The only one who is bitter is me, whenever I end up with another AST in roulette and they see my stance and turn on the same one..>->
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    Winter Sandman
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 70
    I play as an AST and I find Diurnal as the stance I go to most. I always use it when paired with a SCH and then I will switch stances based upon the encounter when paired with a whm. I got Noct when I can predict than incoming damage and Diurnal when damage is unpredictable.

    There is something to be said about the flexibility AST provides.
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Omg, see guys? I told you all that ASTs were super mean. Q_Q
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    Ahraliah Moon
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    Mateus
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I'm fine with both SCH and WHM. With a SCH, I always go diurnal. With WHM, it depends on the WHM and the fight.

    I almost always hate being paired with another AST though. Not because of the sects, but because of the cards. I have seen a depressing amount of other AST overwrite my AOE balance that was only 10 seconds in.
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    Ferox Maximillian
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    Zalera
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Wasn't there a for-laughs healer stereotype thread or something? This would've been better off there without the added forum angst. Or was this meant to be a serious thread?
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