Ben I think you misunderstood my post. I'm trying to be silly with my points, but my point is that we are fighting over silly concepts like realism and immersion (which ppl confusing realism with immersion) and can't get a good topic brain storm in. It gets ruined by I hate it fir sake of hating it.
I hate it cuz its in WoW
i hate it cuz it breaks my "immersion"

Pointless debates don't make for a good community or help the game.
These forums are suppose to help the game and for us to build a community. So far we are having a civil war over realism over dead horse topics. And completely off track to what the point of these forums are for.