People are abusing the Novice channel.

[WinterLuna]

Please redirect to http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ussion-with-GM

A GM confirmed that the NOVICE channel can be used for worldwide chat, however general rules still apply. Spamming and flooding the network, being abusive or any other FF community rule still applies and you can be kicked with valid reason. Thanks for reading.

[Malzian]

Already people who are supposed to be "mentors" are flooding the Novice channel with general chat, "can anyone craft me this?", advertising their parties and even purposely spamming it.

The channel is there to help new people. It's not there to talk to your friends about WoW, it's not there to sell your materials, it's not there to advertise your Alexander Savage parties and it's not there for you to spam.

The kick feature does absolutely nothing since you'd have to kick the entire channel minus the few who use it for its intended reason. Sproutlings have joined the channel and have asked how to leave because it's being abused massively.

I understand this is an MMO, people are social. But there's linkshell's, FC's, /tells and /say. Please stop using this channel as your personal chats.

Also, I shouldn't have to filter the Novice channel purely because people are misusing it. Some people actually want to help others and not see random unrelated chat.

- Lumi.

Already have a thread like this that the mods have responded to, I'd throw this in there instead: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...eedback-for-SE

[WinterLuna]

Already have a thread like this that the mods have responded to, I'd throw this in there instead: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...eedback-for-SE

Apologies, on my phone and it's hard to find threads. Thank you!

[Kosmos992k]

Of course people are abusing it, everytime you assume an altruistic motive you are bound to encounter humanity doing what it does best exploiting and abusing thing created to help others. Report the offenders and perhaps SE will eventually start handing out temp bans to deter people from doing this.

[WinterLuna]

Of course people are abusing it, everytime you assume an altruistic motive you are bound to encounter humanity doing what it does best exploiting and abusing thing created to help others. Report the offenders and perhaps SE will eventually start handing out temp bans to deter people from doing this.

The problem is whether is classed as an "offence" or not. People are afraid to kick people for what they call general chat because they're not sure whether it's actually considered spam, although they're clearly misusing the channel. It also seems the amount of people who misuse the channel heavily out number the people who want to use it for its intended use.

[RareScrewdriver]

I would add that in the case OP mentioned the whole argument was fueled by a single individual who tried to force reddit rules, instead of just have everyone use common sense. It'll get chatty at times when new people come in, but that usually dies down after a few lines and if a sprout asks something, they can be more than sure at least 10 people will answer.

Also, the sprouts who wanted out mostly trolls themselves. The majority of sprouts in the channel didn't say a word apart from the occasional question.

This is the way the channel _will_ go, as a temporary linkshell, with new players needing to be invited manually. If you really want to help sprouts, go into the starting areas, chat them up, maybe give them some HQ gear to prepare them for their first dungeon and add them to your friendlist for them to ask you whatever they want to know. This has worked very well before, I don't see why it won't work anymore now.

[WinterLuna]

The whole reason for the Novice channel is to help new players. Any argument of "if you really want to help people" is completely unrelated to the fact the channel is being misused.

Also, I'm not talking about one specific case. This has happened multiple times when I have been in the Novice channel.

Sprouts trolling is also misusing the channel and is exactly the same as the Mentors doing it. Small amounts of chat are fine, but I don't want to see lines and lines of unrelated spam in my chat box, and I'm sure others don't either.

[Vivi_Bushido]

The whole reason for the Novice channel is to help new players. Any argument of "if you really want to help people" is completely unrelated to the fact the channel is being misused.

Also, I'm not talking about one specific case. This has happened multiple times when I have been in the Novice channel.

Sprouts trolling is also misusing the channel and is exactly the same as the Mentors doing it. Small amounts of chat are fine, but I don't want to see lines and lines of unrelated spam in my chat box, and I'm sure others don't either.

A GM in a picture that was posted in another thread has confirmed that the channel is not being misused, and general chat is perfectly acceptable.

Therefore, the people who're getting upset at others for "socializing" as if it were an everyday linkshell are actually the ones misusing it.

[WinterLuna]

A GM in a picture that was posted in another thread has confirmed that the channel is not being misused, and general chat is perfectly acceptable.

Therefore, the people who're getting upset at others for "socializing" as if it were an everyday linkshell are actually the ones misusing it.

That's fair enough, but if you actually read my thread, I wasn't complaining about "socializing" in the first place. Spam and trolling is still against the rules regardless. At least those are still valid kicks.

[Kling-Klang]

If they would make a global server chat, where you can only post when you are around lvl 30 (to prevent gilspam), people would not abuse the mentor chat as a globalchat.