Shield lob

[Sevyrr]

Shield Lob as soon as in range > Flash on next GCD > CoS > Flash > RoH combo

How are you losing enmity? I don't have any issues with it at all.

[Kaeoni]

Nope. That's why you're better running in flashing your pants off....

I'm always down for more reasons to get naked!

[Levaru]

IMO shield lob is mostly to designate the priority target with out having to mark every mob. That and it helps speed up the run by having you run towards the mobs while they run to you.

SL -> Flash should give you enough enmity to hold the initial pull, and if you have any caster that manages to sneak in a hit before you even start your combo means that they started casting before you even used SL. In which case they planned on pulling early regardless of you new found lack of your protective metal discus.

Using SL at max range should give you enough time to use flash when each mob is in range, and even if they swiftcast an aoe, a flash or two is enough to get back to being garroted by baby parrots.

[Februs]

IMO shield lob is mostly to designate the priority target with out having to mark every mob. That and it helps speed up the run by having you run towards the mobs while they run to you.

Basically this.

Shield Lob has shit enmity gen, and it's potency is not worth wasting FoF on. The only purpose it serves is to openly televise which target is going to be the main or priority target for dps, especially Mnks. Otherwise, Flash is the bread and butter of holding mob aggro. In most cases, you can get away with just face-pulling targets and using a trip Flash + CoS to hold hate without any problems. In the newest dungeons, in particular, this seems to be the preferred method as some of the mobs in Xephe-whatever like to aggro outside of our maximum range. Not sure if that was a glitch or what, but you end up face-pulling half the time anyway, so Shield Lob and similar abilities get left by the wayside.

[Gemina]

As a new tank, I never looked at shield lob as a hate 'stealer'. It's a ranged attack, nothing more.

Correct me if I am wrong, but as GLA, I much prefer to use my gcd on flash. It's the quickest way to grab hate if enmity procs are not available. The way I see things, is the enmity grabber of your combo is best used on that mob that isn't red (if any) on your enmity list, OR the newest mob to enter the fray. If none of these conditions check out, then blast main target with enmity combo.

I dunno if it's a tank thing or not, but you can just 'feel' when you're going to lose hate.

[LilLemay]

I normally avoid using shield lob if I can, but if the mobs in a certain pull are scattered about or there's one that's just obscenely far away, i'll run towards the grouped up ones and shield lob the straggler, then flash the grouped up ones

[Valdo_Mcleod]

I normally avoid using shield lob as well. I only use it when gathering monsters or adds from around the room/area. Then flash to gain some enmity with all mobs. Otherwise i don't think it should be part of any enmity generation combo or dps combo. =] Its pretty situational, and nice to have sometimes. I have it on a macro with fast blade for easy access when a mob spawns far from me and i need to get its attention too.

[Ilan]

SL is only good for pulling and in combination with provoke to get a mob back that wants to go somewhere else. Its the same with the WAR and DRK rangepulls..its useless to use them for another reason.

[LilLemay]

SL is only good for pulling and in combination with provoke to get a mob back that wants to go somewhere else. Its the same with the WAR and DRK rangepulls..its useless to use them for another reason.

Nah man, gotta get that 1k shield lob crits

[Ilan]

Nah man, gotta get that 1k shield lob crits

Yeah right, its totaly worth...