RMT bots are now cloning player characters and names!

[Kosmos992k]

It honestly doesn't seem to be that difficult to mess with the servers. I mean, back during 2.0, it wasn't unheard of to see someone hack their crafting to 50 in minutes. Instant level ups. Hacks in general are common even now. Not all that surprising.

I think you're wrong there. I mean, yes, people manage to do various things, but they were not hacking the server, it was more of a man in the middle attack injecting new database commands or modifying legitimate ones 'in-flight'.

[Torunya]

I mean, yes, people manage to do various things, but they were not hacking the server

I still get freaked out everytime I see a player running from mob to mob in Central Thanalan three times as fast as I can Sprint. Even worse when I see 6+ players doing it in unison. I'm no hacking expert, but my tummy is telling me that SE might want to try a little harder on the whole RMT/botting issue.

[Unaki]

I still get freaked out everytime I see a player running from mob to mob in Central Thanalan three times as fast as I can Sprint. Even worse when I see 6+ players doing it in unison. I'm no hacking expert, but my tummy is telling me that SE might want to try a little harder on the whole RMT/botting issue.

You can fix an issue or apply a new fix that prevents a bot from working but if someone really wants to bot then they're going to find a work-around or apply their own fixes to the bots themselves and start the whole process over again. You will never be able to completely stop this, only stifle it.

[Kosmos992k]

I still get freaked out everytime I see a player running from mob to mob in Central Thanalan three times as fast as I can Sprint. Even worse when I see 6+ players doing it in unison. I'm no hacking expert, but my tummy is telling me that SE might want to try a little harder on the whole RMT/botting issue.

They need to do better securing the client, or portions of it, at least, and securing the comunications between client and server. Validation on the server side would work, but it creates a large load that the server has to cope with in addition to everything else.

[Welsper59]

I think you're wrong there. I mean, yes, people manage to do various things, but they were not hacking the server, it was more of a man in the middle attack injecting new database commands or modifying legitimate ones 'in-flight'.

Other than a lengthy explanation, what would you classify that as? I mean, I also wouldn't consider it hacking the server or anything, which is why I used "mess with" in reference to the servers, but I would consider an altering of normally inaccessible commands to be a hack in this case. I've tested position hacks in games like XI, and while that wasn't hacking the server, I would still consider it a "hack" lol. That market board issue that happened early into ARR would definitely be a server side hit though, the one that was making players near a market board buy items without their actual interaction with it.